The Mathil Tornado/Puncture Spec - Cheap Uber Atziri Viable

i have a very stupid question (read first 5 pages and last 2 pages, didnt see anything about it) :
does the explosion count as the starting point for the subsequent arrows? ie : will point blank increase damage?

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blaes wrote:

i have a very stupid question (read first 5 pages and last 2 pages, didnt see anything about it) :
does the explosion count as the starting point for the subsequent arrows? ie : will point blank increase damage?

No, distance to your character is what matters there. Use Point Blank, if you prefer to shoot enemies at close range.

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Sparowes wrote:

Suprised nobody mentioned this. 6% more dodge, life and (in maps) you will never die, cause of an infinite number of endurance charges to work with my dual Immortal Call setup.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but this chest wont allow you to use EC+IC+CWDT+ID combo. You will lose Endurance Charges when hit, before IC triggers, and that means far less survivability for some cases, including reflect.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

if you prefer to shoot enemies at close range.

nope, not really. thanks for the answer.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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blaes wrote:

i have a very stupid question (read first 5 pages and last 2 pages, didnt see anything about it) :
does the explosion count as the starting point for the subsequent arrows? ie : will point blank increase damage?

No, distance to your character is what matters there. Use Point Blank, if you prefer to shoot enemies at close range.

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Sparowes wrote:

Suprised nobody mentioned this. 6% more dodge, life and (in maps) you will never die, cause of an infinite number of endurance charges to work with my dual Immortal Call setup.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but this chest wont allow you to use EC+IC+CWDT+ID combo. You will lose Endurance Charges when hit, before IC triggers, and that means far less survivability for some cases, including reflect.

You are wrong, IC does proc. And i also gain the onslaught buff.

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Sparowes wrote:

You are wrong, IC does proc. And i also gain the onslaught buff.

Well, IC will proc, obviously, but what about duration of it? With 1-2 Endurance Charges (gained from Enduring Cry triggered by CWDT) your IC may last for 1.5-3 seconds, and without charges it will last less than half-second.

Are you sure the long-lenth Immortal Call is trigered when charges are "lost"?

I use Immortal Call in a CWDT setup with Daresso's and it most definitely works- lasts for friggin ages with 4 charges.

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RunPuppet wrote:

I use Immortal Call in a CWDT setup with Daresso's and it most definitely works- lasts for friggin ages with 4 charges.

Hmm. I'll give it a try, then...

I didn't originally base my spec off of yours but I definitely used it to shore up some deficiencies and in the end, it was very similar. (Originally had more Evasion nodes, then did the Scion life wheel route, then finally settled back to this.)

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Downed Atziri for the first time last night, mainly looking at your vid and seeing what how the fights went. Tons of thanks! Got a 99% Scepter as my first drop and then killed her a couple more times lol. Not sure what I want to upgrade next, so far so good really at the moment.

As to others, I run both Heralds + Hatred and end up with 50% evasion meaning Queen of the Forest already makes me run super fast. I also love the fact that Jade flasks or flasks that increase evasion turn into Quicksilvers by default. Mine currently has super low evasion, but great resists so I don't want to chance it. I'd highly recommend the armour, though I'd like to try Coil when I get more specific lightning resist gear.

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dragnmith1 wrote:

is this bow good enough for end game or do i need a better one?

I'd get a better one

what u think about "Pyre Sapphire Ring + The Three Dragons Golden Mask + Kaom's Heart Glorious Plate + Hatred + Herald of ice and 5-6L bow for Ice shot" massive fire damage and shock
gonna try this when get few moore exalts for Kaom)

if someone already do this post results plz)