I Cast Magic Missile! - Cantrip's guide to Ethereal Knives 2.0

Ok thanks for the anwsers.

Wander dont go AA but they go Ondar's so that's pretty tanky too i think.



You (CantripN & Tempada) play non crit version.
Would crit be such a downgrade defensive wise ?

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Isdp wrote:

Ok thanks for the anwsers.

Wander dont go AA but they go Ondar's so that's pretty tanky too i think.



You (CantripN & Tempada) play non crit version.
Would crit be such a downgrade defensive wise ?

2 reasons:

1 - More Passives spent on DPS.
2 - Reflect WILL hurt. BAD.

Besides, Crit EK is overkill, at least eventually. You get to the point you kill in a one-shot anything that's less than a Rare, so any further "DPS" is fake often and a risk to Reflect.

Okay thanks for the input guys.
Gonna give it a try in BL :)

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Isdp wrote:

Okay thanks for the input guys.
Gonna give it a try in BL :)

There is one reason to consider Crit EK, and that is Phys to Light. If you Shock whenever you crit, it improves it quite a bit (and then Crit Damage isn't needed, just Crit Chance / Cast Speed). Otherwise, don't bother.

Hi again, playing every now and than i managed to get to lvl 83 and i'm vastly satisfied by this build.
I am here now to ask suggestions for an Atziri run, since i've never tried one.
What should i change to be optimized for the situation?
Should i wait untill i have acro?

This is my current tree and gear:


tree:


Gear:


Some numbers


Unfortunatly i'm having an hard time trying to change my gloves for something with the res i need to cap them cause i actually need the +40 dex on them.. Of course i know i should cap res (not an issue when mapping now but for Atziri i surely will).

I would wait until you have Acrobatics, but you might be able to do it just fine already. That is some of the best gear I've seen, after all.
You can have the Full Acrobatics very soon, if you give up the useless Master of Force passives.

Otherwise, you need Purity of Fire (at least) and a Ruby flask / Rise of the Phoenix, but mostly you need to learn the fight and dodge manually.

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CantripN wrote:

I would wait until you have Acrobatics, but you might be able to do it just fine already. That is some of the best gear I've seen, after all.
You can have the Full Acrobatics very soon, if you give up the useless Master of Force passives.

Otherwise, you need Purity of Fire (at least) and a Ruby flask / Rise of the Phoenix, but mostly you need to learn the fight and dodge manually.

First things first, thanks for the advice.

I must say that getting good gear for this build is not that expensive, at least on standard. I was lucky getting a +1 Tabula for 3 ex, and for the rest of the gear it's less than a total 10 ex, with the amulet being the most expensive thing.

By the way i'm still using some of the stuff you gave me, like the belt, the granite flask and 6 or 7 gems. Thank you again ;)

Hey, I've been playing this build in hardcore (regular hardcore, still new to poe really).

I'm a little worried about my survivability, as I haven't seen the build in action and you seem to play the normal leagues... Someone early on in the thread said that a Cloak of Defiance would be a great piece for survivability. IF I went for that, I'd have to more or less resign myself to hatred+clarity and another aura, I think that person specifically mentioned grace. I was thinking I'd go for Iron Reflexes as well. Using your latest skill tree as a basis, I changed it up to this:

I feel like there's a lot of wasted points there, just getting to IR... But maybe it's worth it? Is this totally overkill and I might as well go for a belly of the beast, and run herald of ash and haste instead for some more damage? My gear is far from stellar as I just hit 70ish on my first more or less successful character, but I capped my resists and got 3k life. For the moment it's enough, but ehh...

What do you think? Are you sturdy enough while playing that you'd feel comfortable recommending your own passive tree to a hardcore player, or is mine totally okay? Any other suggestions?

EDIT: Bought a cheap Belly on a whim to try it out, misclicked a rare strongbox and died. Nvm.

Sorry you died. Tree is just fine as Acro, far safer than IR overall, and this is by far the safest build I have ever played, once you level enough. IR used to be mandatory to not die from EK's Reflect, but with CwDT, that's no longer an issue, and especially with AA.

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BTW, my latest tree and gear don't actually let me run Herald of Ash, since my gear doesn't have enough ES for my mana pool. If I could run it with slightly better gear, my DPS would be yet higher.
As it stands, I either have 5.5K Life and 46K DPS with Dual Wands, or 5.7K Life and 42K DPS with Wand+Shield. Mana Regen is actually better with Dual Wands, in my case, and the loss of Block from 15% to 11% isn't significant.

Ah, thanks for the quick response!

I gotcha, thanks for the input. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed the build, and it did feel really safe right until I died, which had nothing to do with the build :p I don't know that I'll level a third one just yet - since my first died in late cruel - but it really feels like a very solid build. Most importantly, at least for me, I had fun playing it :)

Anywhoo, thanks again.