GGG - Question - New Crafting Benches

So according to the manifesto:

- Once a Master has been invited to your hideout, you have access to their crafting bench
- Your hideout can support (at most) 4 Masters
- Only the owner of the hideout can use the hideout's crafting benches
- Your hideout is "league-wide," meaning that all your characters share the same hideout within the same league
- There are 7 masters, each with their own unique crafting bench/recipes

Therefore, if I'm connecting the dots properly, all characters within a given league will only ever have access to 4 of the 7 potential "sets" of recipes.

Is this correct? Can GGG (or someone with superior reading comprehension skills) confirm/deny and provide proof/reasoning? Thanks! :)

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srh4439 wrote:

- Your hideout can support (at most) 4 Masters

Not sure.

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Chris wrote:

Leveling the Masters to maximum level isn't meant to be a multi-year grind. There's a challenge to hit level 8 with all 7 Masters during the three month leagues. It's easier to level just a few of them to level 8 (the Master limit in your Hideout controls how many Masters you can do daily missions for).

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srh4439 wrote:

- Your hideout is "account-wide," meaning that all your characters share the same hideout

No.

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Chris wrote:

Note that your progress with your Masters and the status of your Hideout are shared between all of your characters in a specific league. If you create a new character in a league that you've already played in, then they can take advantage of your existing pimped out Hideout and options provided by your higher level Masters. Decorations you unlock are stored in the Hideout Stash for that league and merge into your Standard or Hardcore collection when the league ends, like race stashes do.

It may just be a difference in reading, but the way I read Chris's post, it sounds like the hideout is account wide.

Also, if I'm understanding things correctly, leveling a master gives your account access to their wears (aka the things he's selling), and their workbench (aka the recipes). However, you need to place their workbench in your hideout (limit of 4) in order to use their recipes.

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srh4439 wrote:

It may just be a difference in reading, but the way I read Chris's post, it sounds like the hideout is account wide.

?????

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Chris wrote:

Note that your progress with your Masters and the status of your Hideout are shared between all of your characters in a specific league.

This sentence is straightforward. There's no difference in reading. I'm right, you're wrong.

Agreed, within a league. So if I have one hideout in the upcoming league, and one in standard, I have no idea how those two hideouts will merge/coexist.

So let me clarify: within a given league, does one ever have access to more than 4 recipe benches (and therefore 4 sets of recipes) based on the points above?

I'll update the original post as such.

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srh4439 wrote:

Agreed, within a league. So if I have one hideout in the upcoming league, and one in standard, I have no idea how those two hideouts will merge/coexist.

So let me clarify: within a given league, does one ever have access to more than 4 recipe benches (and therefore 4 sets of recipes) based on the points above?

I'll update the original post as such.

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Chris wrote:

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Druga1757 wrote:

Does Master progress in leagues transfer to Standard once the league ends?

Yep.

As to how that happens we don't have any details yet.

The crafting benches and the 4 limit is a good question though.

Invite them to your hideout... I'd guess that it is possible to dismiss them later and get another Master.
According to the screenshots, you can also meet them in town or hostile areas (and probably switch their locations)

I imagine you gain the benches from those masters as hideout property meaning that they will gain independence from the masters. The masters themselves offer their services (vendor stuff and dailies) only personally in your hideout. The benches they award might be a property, meaning that it will make sense to level all masters to a certain point.

That's how I'd imagine it being the least complicated.

Interesting, I had thought the opposite (aka hideout = benches), and that you had access to their "wears" regardless via talking with them in town.

Maybe it's the opposite, though Chris's wording is what I'm basing my opinion off of. The following quotes are from the manifesto:

"Once a Master has been invited to your Hideout, you can place his crafting bench in your Hideout. As the Master levels up, the crafting bench gets more capabilities."

and

"As you level your Master up, you're able to upgrade the size of your Hideout. There are three sizes and they each support a different number of Masters (ranging from 2 to 4)."

That could end up being a serious annoyance if you can only have 4 Masters in your hideout, and can not access there benches any other way.