[1.2.0] "Forcefield" - Flameblast - EB/MoM/Block - Atziri & Endgame Viable!

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zinki wrote:
Currently leveling this and it's really fun, surprisingly. I was worried about the whole "hold to cast" thing it has going on, but it's not so bad. Not to mention, instant FB's while running are nifty.

Anywho, currently ~24ish, and using the 2 new unique rings, Pyre and Mokou's Embrace. Do you think these are end-game viable, or will I be missing too many other stats?




Edit: Also, some recommended uniques for other's leveling this! Really helpful to super pump up this build when leveling.


They really did add a lot of nice leveling uniques for burn builds. Wish I could have had them before I started my character this league. Might end up using them if I reroll for the challenges.

You could probably afford to drop one item slot for a unique but I don't feel like it's worth losing out on life and possibly even chaos resist. "Ignited enemies you hit are destroyed on kill" on Pyre wouldn't be very good once you start using elemental proliferation.

Mokou's Embrace is more interesting as the extra chance to ignite and other offensive stats would be great to have if you can still manage to cap your resists. It lowers your survivability so I wouldn't recommend using it on Beyond. One with 10% chance to ignite and 25% fire damage would be nice to have.

Since I'm mostly playing on hardcore mode I try to avoid losing any kind of defense but I know that some uniques like the +1 curse ring and Doryani's Invitation belt can be great to have. They aren't strictly better than rares but the trade-off between defense and offense can sometimes be worth it. It's all up to whether or not you feel safe doing it.



Last edited by Redoxe#1231 on Sep 18, 2014, 5:50:55 PM
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Redoxe wrote:
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zinki wrote:
Currently leveling this and it's really fun, surprisingly. I was worried about the whole "hold to cast" thing it has going on, but it's not so bad. Not to mention, instant FB's while running are nifty.

Anywho, currently ~24ish, and using the 2 new unique rings, Pyre and Mokou's Embrace. Do you think these are end-game viable, or will I be missing too many other stats?




Edit: Also, some recommended uniques for other's leveling this! Really helpful to super pump up this build when leveling.


They really did add a lot of nice leveling uniques for burn builds. Wish I could have had them before I started my character this league. Might end up using them if I reroll for the challenges.

You could probably afford to drop one item slot for a unique but I don't feel like it's worth losing out on life and possibly even chaos resist. "Ignited enemies you hit are destroyed on kill" on Pyre wouldn't be very good once you start using elemental proliferation.

Mokou's Embrace is more interesting as the extra chance to ignite and other offensive stats would be great to have if you can still manage to cap your resists. It lowers your survivability so I wouldn't recommend using it on Beyond. One with 10% chance to ignite and 25% fire damage would be nice to have.

Since I'm mostly playing on hardcore mode I try to avoid losing any kind of defense but I know that some uniques like the +1 curse ring and Doryani's Invitation belt can be great to have. They aren't strictly better than rares but the trade-off between defense and offense can sometimes be worth it. It's all up to whether or not you feel safe doing it.





Oh great point on Pyre, didn't even think about that. Guess I'll be dropping that one for now. I'll likely hold onto my Mokou's, and maybe shoot for a perf/better one. And luckily, I'm on Rampage, so I'm okay losing a bit of survivability! Plus, AA should mitigate most of most ignites, yeah?
Redoxe can you link ur current skill tree and gear?
"Path of Exile's engine is currently modern, lean and fast." - Chris Wilson, September 19th, 2019
http://tinyurl.com/kqo4ouq

I was thinking about making a flameblaster for beyond since my mjolner guy ripped. I haven't decided on rathpith, anvil and rainbowstride for 78/75 or rathpith lazhwar for 70/75 block, but this is my take on your passive tree.

I really don't think Breath of Flames is worth 4 points for (10% ignite/20% fire damage), but perhaps I'm wrong. I just find running 149% life in HC is pretty awful. The passive tree is pretty similar, what are your thoughts?

From what I can tell, I trade some mana nodes, breath of flames, and flask effect for 40% more health and my attributes are also tighter giving me 90 more strength.
Last edited by Pebbz92#0042 on Sep 19, 2014, 3:24:07 PM
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zeldzioszka wrote:
Redoxe can you link ur current skill tree and gear?


https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBAcEswVbBukHHgj0DPcOSA5cEZYSaRRNFm8WvxccGjgabB0UHoEhsCSqJpUnYSlPKo0rDS0fLpQ09zWANj022DbpOVI6WDrYPAVCS0V-RtdJG0lRS41Ms1FgVUtVxlgHXfJeH18qYeJirGpDavprF2yMcXl4L3y7fuJ_xoIegziD24XFi4yMNo9GkFWVIJUul4WboZ1jnaqdrp_fogCio6Sxp4SplayYr2y0xbw3vOrAVMHzxYrbC9--4XPjauOE5CLljucL6dXr5Ow47SDvfPAf8NXxbPO-99f60v8c

169% life and some extra strength because I take some extra life nodes near the templar start. I dropped the aoe nodes in favour of the extra curse but I really don't like the smaller aoe so I might remove something else instead.

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I also have these gloves but can't use them yet because I need the dex



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Pebbz92 wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/kqo4ouq

I was thinking about making a flameblaster for beyond since my mjolner guy ripped. I haven't decided on rathpith, anvil and rainbowstride for 78/75 or rathpith lazhwar for 70/75 block, but this is my take on your passive tree.

I really don't think Breath of Flames is worth 4 points for (10% ignite/20% fire damage), but perhaps I'm wrong. I just find running 149% life in HC is pretty awful. The passive tree is pretty similar, what are your thoughts?

From what I can tell, I trade some mana nodes, breath of flames, and flask effect for 40% more health and my attributes are also tighter giving me 90 more strength.


10% chance to ignite is a big deal, there's nothing worse than having your FB fail to ignite against bosses or rares.

I already take the Athleticism buff effect/life nodes but I don't have enough points to spare for the life nodes further down near the marauder. They would be great to have but I felt like it would be a waste if the build was incredibly tanky but had a slow clear speed.
Last edited by Redoxe#1231 on Sep 19, 2014, 5:15:57 PM
What should your passives look around, say 55? Haven't died yet on beyond, but I've been close a few times. Damage seems fine, though.
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slowhanded wrote:
What should your passives look around, say 55? Haven't died yet on beyond, but I've been close a few times. Damage seems fine, though.


I would recommend taking all the life nodes you can get your hands on and to keep your flasks up to date. Taking block early won't do much and a high life pool is the best way to get to endgame alive.

Late Cruel and early merciless is where you'll have the most problems. Once you're able to comfortably farm a zone in merciless, get your resists capped and slowly increase your life as you upgrade pieces of your gear, that's when things will start to get easy.

my shadow version
gear:
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build:
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABAcFWwbpBx4I9A5IEZYSaRRNFecWbxa_FxwabB6BHwIfxyGwJKomlSdhKo0tiy6UNPc1gDY9NsU22DbpOlg8BT1fRUdFfEbXSRtJUUuNTLNRYFJTVUtVxlcrXcZd8l8qYeJirGpDaxdsjG0ZcXlzs37if8aCHoM4g9uLjIw2lSCVLpeFl5WXl5f0nWOdqp2un9-iAKKjpLGnCKmVrJi0xbUEvOq9gsBUwfPFitgk2wvfiuFz42rjhOWO5wvpAuvk7FXtIO988B_wa_DV8WzzvvrS_rP_HA==

I use stone of lahzar instead of the anvil because i can only take the spell block nodes at 90+
In fact its fine with it for the 12% cast seed.
This build work perfect if you don't have a party member who fuck your proliferation (like mjolner builds.....XD)
I will change the glove for the CWS, and also the prismatic ring for a better (like one with all attribute and more res)
I use discipline but i can sustain without so i think to change for anger or haste
And finally,i will 6L a defiance (but i have already one in standard....so maybe not)
very good flameblast build - i also enjoyed watching the flameblast battle in your atziri fight: keep it up!
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FullCust wrote:
very good flameblast build - i also enjoyed watching the flameblast battle in your atziri fight: keep it up!


Thanks, hoping to have a new updated Atziri video up by the end of this week. I've barely had any free time for gaming recently so I haven't been able to record all the videos for the guide.

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