litesabr's Molten Strike (moved to duelist)

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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000445

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Trying your build:
I haven't specced into crit nodes yet. Missing some regrets, so I've been only able to change some of my previous molten strike build.

Iron grip and point blank keystones are on your route? wouldnt that buff up your dps a lot?

I'm up to 35k DPS now, but there's no way to sustain HP with only the elemental leech from gear. Would be nice to see how OP does in 76-78 maps.

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Soulphage wrote:

Iron grip and point blank keystones are on your route? wouldnt that buff up your dps a lot?

Indeed, they would increase greatly your DPS, as you are going through Strenght bonuses.
In addition, I don't think you can go to "1 Million DPS", because all your Molten's bullets (Gangsta name xD) won't hit a single enemy.

More than Iron Grip, Point Blank will definitely make your DPS off the chart, as it is calculated with the projectile's horizontal distance, and not with their absolute movement.


I'm not experienced enough to try this build, can someone do ? :D

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KrissKrols wrote:

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Soulphage wrote:

Iron grip and point blank keystones are on your route? wouldnt that buff up your dps a lot?

Indeed, they would increase greatly your DPS, as you are going through Strenght bonuses.
In addition, I don't think you can go to "1 Million DPS", because all your Molten's bullets (Gangsta name xD) won't hit a single enemy.

More than Iron Grip, Point Blank will definitely make your DPS off the chart, as it is calculated with the projectile's horizontal distance, and not with their absolute movement.


I'm not experienced enough to try this build, can someone do ? :D

Your DPS really depends on the size of the monster and where you are fighting them. If it is a big enemy like Vaal you will hit with many of the molten ball projectiles, but if it is a small monster like a skeleton archer you may only hit with 1-2. Also if you fight mobs against walls or in corners with Molten Strike it significantly buffs your damage because the balls bounce off the obstacles and land on a central location.

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Soulphage wrote:

Iron grip and point blank keystones are on your route? wouldnt that buff up your dps a lot?

Iron Grip actually does NOT help because I am using Avatar of Fire (no non-fire damage) and Iron Grip only affects the physical portion of the damage.

As for point blank, I guess it would help out a third of the projectiles as explained here.
www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/916639



This will give an average of 1/3 * 50% = 16.7% buff on the lava balls. I will also test the math on replacing a gem with a Concentrated Effect gem. That would seem to make the maximum distance 13.333, causing 2/3 of the projectiles to be 10 distance and under. However, this might also cause a much slower attack speed or reduction of damage in general, depending on which gem is replaced.

EDIT: I wasn't really a fan of the Conc Eff gem. Instead I'm toying with GMP on the 6th slot (if i could use mana leech and no avatar of fire).

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Iron Grip actually does NOT help because I am using Avatar of Fire (no non-fire damage) and Iron Grip only affects the physical portion of the damage.

Isn't all the damage, with the exception of anger, physical that is converted to fire? Therefore, even with Avatar of Fire, wouldn't Iron Grip buff 100% of the non-anger damage with your strength bonus? This may not be a huge percentage anyway since increased damage is all additive, but I wanted to make sure my understanding is correct.

I also have a question with regard to dual wield. Since dual wield alternates attacks, isn't the bonus from dual wielding negligible? Or is it twice the number of attacks in a certain period of time?

The main reason I wanted to dual wield was because of the bonus gained Doryani's Catalysts, basically +100% to elemental damage each. Also, there is the +15% attack speed and GGG recently buffed all dual wield damage with a 20% more modifier.

However, a 1-handed version is definitely viable. I toyed making one when I first made this as well. It just wouldn't get nearly the same critical strike chance because you'd lose out on the nice dual wield nodes in the ranger and duelist trees. As a way to help against reflect with a single weapon build, I would suggest using a Rise of the Phoenix or an Aegis Aurora.

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Zindax wrote:

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Iron Grip actually does NOT help because I am using Avatar of Fire (no non-fire damage) and Iron Grip only affects the physical portion of the damage.

Isn't all the damage, with the exception of anger, physical that is converted to fire? Therefore, even with Avatar of Fire, wouldn't Iron Grip buff 100% of the non-anger damage with your strength bonus? This may not be a huge percentage anyway since increased damage is all additive, but I wanted to make sure my understanding is correct.

As for this, I'm actually not sure, and it's very possible you are correct. I do know that if you use hatred with avatar of fire, the hatred first is used based on the 40% physical that is remaining after molten strike converts 60% to fire. Then it's cut in half again because of avatar of fire before gaining all the ele dmg buffs on gear and passives. I tested this with and without avatar of fire.