Atziri Kill as a Summoner/Ambush League (Success!)

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Racthoh wrote:

I do wonder if a 20Q minion life/zombie can survive the flameblast. It sounds like the fight isn't a lot of fun having to re-summon the minions constantly. The evangelist shield sounds like a bug but I pray it's not because that sounds like the only reasonable way to beat the fight.

I see a few curses there between the two of you. Was Enfeeble the main go-to for her? Relates back to one shot zombie kills, was that with Enfeeble or without? Also were you specced into Minion Instability? That would essentially knock off 30% of their health. I've been thinking of going triple curse, enfeeble/temporal chains/vulnerability, with rejuventation totem, possibly vitality, in hopes the life leech and delay of her attacks from temporal chains would be enough for them to regen back to full/a safe zone. Maybe dual desecrate totems (each totem gets 3 charges) to create a mass of corpses for Bone/Flesh Offering to maintain the spell block/damage -> leech.

It sounds like the fight might be doable solo as a summoner with every +minion health item you can get your hands on.

Here are the curses we used against the various bosses.

Duo Vaal - Vulnerability

Trio Boss - Vuln for Axe and Dual Striker
Enfeeble for ROA tentacle boss

Atziri - Vuln for all stages. Careful of mirror clone as it reflects curse.

Main reason for vuln was the life expectancy of the zombies. They would not last long with enfeeble or not so it made more sense to deal as much dps as possible while they were alive. Plus in this fight our main dps were actually the 6 evangelists between us.

No minion instability as it reduces the effective hp of your minions so unless your build is built around them dying and dealing damage that way, it will not be useful.

Her attacks are very quick with very little room to breathe and regen IMO, however it is worth a shot.

I would say it would be much more easily do-able as a solo summoner if you have shavronne's wrappings to stack all those auras. You would also need midnight bargain + Bones of Ullr to increase that spectre count to make sure the shields have a higher up time(4 evangelists total). Evangelists tend to not re-cast their shield when they are constantly attacking, so you have to watch out for this.

Desecrate totem seems like a good idea. Provided you have enough sockets to run them. As summoners main issue is always the lack of sockets to run additional support spells, more-so if you run 7 auras or more.

Here's a rough setup of my standard league low life summoner.

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borek664 wrote:

Wait, Evangelists can block Flameblast? I could agree on rest of the attacks but not this. Strange really.

evangelist (and anyone inside the bubble) are immune to any damage that originates outside of their bubble.

"It is impossible" they said.

evangelists block the aoe? Then any ranged can just roll over this fight ... how hard is to get 1 spectre with increased duration and faster casting?

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Stt3r0 wrote:

evangelists block the aoe? Then any ranged can just roll over this fight ... how hard is to get 1 spectre with increased duration and faster casting?

evangelists 'block' and have 'blocked' a ton of things since the release, I really thought they were going to get nerfed shortly after the release because their utility improves survivability through the roof.

from vaal bricks and lazers to dominus touch of god (when outside the bubble), storm herald or pietys lightning ball outside the bubble(troll piety), any RoA attack or firestorm spell (troll magaera)

with that said, I dont know about any ranged. any ranged wont have any summon nodes or gear, thus one mishap and your spectre is dead. zombies and skellies keep aggro off you and evangelists too.

with 20/20 inc duration, they should have almost no shield downtime, get 4 spectres with inc aoe and inc duration and you can go naked most of time - like i do 2,9k life -6 light resist :P

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grepman wrote:

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Stt3r0 wrote:

evangelists block the aoe? Then any ranged can just roll over this fight ... how hard is to get 1 spectre with increased duration and faster casting?

evangelists 'block' and have 'blocked' a ton of things since the release, I really thought they were going to get nerfed shortly after the release because their utility improves survivability through the roof.

from vaal bricks and lazers to dominus touch of god (when outside the bubble), storm herald or pietys lightning ball outside the bubble(troll piety), any RoA attack or firestorm spell (troll magaera)

with that said, I dont know about any ranged. any ranged wont have any summon nodes or gear, thus one mishap and your spectre is dead. zombies and skellies keep aggro off you and evangelists too.

If they get nerfed they are easier to kill as enemies :) If they dare to nerf the summoner form without altering the enemy form ...I think I won't play summoner(and much of this game) any more.

p.s. Here's my strategy to beat her with evangelist shield(though it seems cumbersome now) - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/813077/page/8

I called this earlier, right at the launch of the update.

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Simple.

Get 2 summoner friends.

Have each get 4-5 Undying Evangelist specters.
Gem them with life leech, increased duration and increased AoE.

Fill the rest of your team out with as much DPS as you can muster.

Everyone sits in the 8-10 giant bubbles that will have the team take zero damage and also reflect, and melt the bitch.

Summoners then mash Skeles + Zombies on her to keep aggro off players, while everyone makes sure they are in a bubble. Enfeeble + Temp chains her to massively lower the threat.

GG, GGG ;)

I was going to solo it with 5 of them(evangelists), once I got the map pieces, but I figure I'd let the cat out of the bag, and share my strat ;)

No wacky gear needed past some Bones of Ullr and a Queen's Decree.

They tried to tell me evangelists wouldn't work. I plan to solo this map some day with my char, but honestly really lacking motivation for PoE lately. Farm Dom 10 billion times, what else is there in this game?

I miss the Sacred series' area scaling. There's nothing to do here but farm one guy endlessly.

Maps? Gated by RNG and shit.
Atziri? Gated by more RNG and shit.

Seriously GGG, stop gating the goddamn playing of your game with RNG. Fuck.
Like, drops, okay, RNG all that shit. Crafting? Go nuts. RNG all that shit.

Me playing your game? Don't fucking gate me on that. Let me play your game. I don't play much at all, from playing all day every day, because you prevent me from doing so. Seriously. I'd be playing still, if I had more to do than farm one goddamn guy on repeat from here to eternity. Or are the strong box things your solution? I guess I'll have to wait five months for them to come into standard then? I want to finish characters, so new leagues are out. I'm not done my Domination chars yet, new league does not appeal at all.

bowing out

Congrats on the kill :D

I've been trying to farm the fragments myself to give her a shot, where do you guys go to get yours? I've just been running around random places like Docks/City of Sarn/Sceptre of God hoping to get lucky...Is there a better method?