base damage and damage effectiveness

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Ludvator wrote:

damage effectivness also modifies Life on Hit. Deals X% of base damage does not

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Uvne wrote:

Heavy Strike's bonus is listed as "deals x% of base damage" not as "damage effectiveness." I'm not entirely sure of all the mechanics at play here, but I just checked, and yes, Heavy Strike does 50% more damage per hit than the basic attack.

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Scherge wrote:

Okay, so first of all sry for necroing this thread, but i have a question that i didn't get an answer on.

If we take Mark of the Doubting Knight for example.
The weapon description says: "210% - 240% increaed damage"

As far as i got it, this simply gives the weapon more base damage, right?


So, what about for example Bino's Kitchen Knife?
The weapon says: "Adds (50–120 to 60–140) Physical Damage"

Is that calculated as Base or as Added damage when it comes to DE?
If it is, does it count for Damage added by items like Meginord's Girdle as well?


Thanks in advance!

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Kaicimo wrote:

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Scherge wrote:

Okay, so first of all sry for necroing this thread, but i have a question that i didn't get an answer on.

If we take Mark of the Doubting Knight for example.
The weapon description says: "210% - 240% increaed damage"

As far as i got it, this simply gives the weapon more base damage, right?


So, what about for example Bino's Kitchen Knife?
The weapon says: "Adds (50–120 to 60–140) Physical Damage"

Is that calculated as Base or as Added damage when it comes to DE?
If it is, does it count for Damage added by items like Meginord's Girdle as well?


Thanks in advance!

I'm no expert but I think this is how it works. If a weapon has "adds x physical damage ", that is a local modifier and is already figured into the damage shown on the weapon. Similarly %increased damage on a weapon is local as well and is also already figured into displayed weapon base damage. However, if you get flat physical added from other gear slots, that is added to the weapon base before it gets modified by tree and gem increases. One thing I'm not sure about is if the added flat damage from non weapon gear gets modified by the local %increased on the weapon, but I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can straighten that out.

Edit: That's why flat physical on gear is so important for facebreaker builds, because that flat damage gets multiplyed by the huge % increased on the facebreaker gloves. Also that means % increased damage on the tree is less effective because the facebreakers already have a huge % increased.

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darkmark009 wrote:

Facebreakers give a "More unarmed physical damage" modifier, not increased. Increased damage nodes are just as effective for facebreaker as anything else.