[1.2.4] 11 Aura Low Life Support Culler - Steroids Edition Revamp

A quick question: if one were only interested in culling (and not in DPS at all), wouldn't it make sense to keep the flame totem at like level 1 to minimize the mana cost? Or does the life of the flame totem also depend on its level?

And another one: how about ditching double totem if one is only interested in reliable culling? One totem should be sufficient, right?

Cheers! And thanks for the guide!

Life is based on totem level, yes.

I dont use Ancestral Bond either - or any totem dps nodes... I use EK myself and Flametotem with culling and rarity only (maybe reduced mana aswell if I need it). I even use my own EK with rarity...

screw dps, we need drops ^_^

What about a Soul Mantle so you can use 3 Totems not sure if even Possible

Might work for CI version - not for low life version tho... than you NEED Shav's. And maybe the curses on you might suck...

Well for the Curses you could use Remove Curses Flask.

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Pls wrote:

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Torgh wrote:

is flame totem better than incinerate ?

what is your dps with flame totem ?

thank you to have post your build, i like it.


it was linked on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1stmko/build_help_14_auras_conduit_triple_curse/ce14geu

Flame totem is better then spell totem + incinerate because it has a quality bonus of +Life instead of duration and you save an entire gem slot not having to use spell totem. Incinerate might do more damage, but we don't need damage, we boost our party by 30-40%.

My dps with flame totem is very low because I am currently using the end game build, which gets rid of all spell damage for much higher ES (6500 now). If you want DPS for solo play you use dual EK totem with this build.

Glad you like the build and it was shared on reddit :- )

First of all, NICE build!

I asked myself the same question like Torgh and cannot really follow your argumentation. You say you save 1 gem slot, but checking your build you use reduced mana... So why not use incinerate + spell totem (lvl 20: 7*250% = 17.5 mana cost) which is FAR cheaper than any flametotem + reduced mana (lvl 1: 34 mana*0.8 = 27.2 mana cost). (even a quality reduced mana gem doesnt change this)

Also you say that the quality = life bonus is better, but checking incinerate which gets faster projectiles (+ longer duration on spell totem) with quality would mean a bigger area and therfor more culling or not?

Also the dmg boost ... you say we dont need it, but having it is not bad isnt it?

Last one, and I only read this on reddit only, is incinerate better vs big groups...
http://4x.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1pqntj/flame_totem_vs_incinerate_totem_which_is_better/

Another thing i would like to ask, why not kick out the faster casting, we are casting FAST already and replace it with Blind? would mean a huge buff for the party.

Looking forward for your reply :)

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chickahoona wrote:

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Pls wrote:

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Torgh wrote:

is flame totem better than incinerate ?

what is your dps with flame totem ?

thank you to have post your build, i like it.


it was linked on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1stmko/build_help_14_auras_conduit_triple_curse/ce14geu

Flame totem is better then spell totem + incinerate because it has a quality bonus of +Life instead of duration and you save an entire gem slot not having to use spell totem. Incinerate might do more damage, but we don't need damage, we boost our party by 30-40%.

My dps with flame totem is very low because I am currently using the end game build, which gets rid of all spell damage for much higher ES (6500 now). If you want DPS for solo play you use dual EK totem with this build.

Glad you like the build and it was shared on reddit :- )

First of all, NICE build!

I asked myself the same question like Torgh and cannot really follow your argumentation. You say you save 1 gem slot, but checking your build you use reduced mana... So why not use incinerate + spell totem (lvl 20: 7*250% = 17.5 mana cost) which is FAR cheaper than any flametotem + reduced mana (lvl 1: 34 mana*0.8 = 27.2 mana cost). (even a quality reduced mana gem doesnt change this)

Also you say that the quality = life bonus is better, but checking incinerate which gets faster projectiles (+ longer duration on spell totem) with quality would mean a bigger area and therfor more culling or not?

Also the dmg boost ... you say we dont need it, but having it is not bad isnt it?

Last one, and I only read this on reddit only, is incinerate better vs big groups...
http://4x.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1pqntj/flame_totem_vs_incinerate_totem_which_is_better/

Another thing i would like to ask, why not kick out the faster casting, we are casting FAST already and replace it with Blind? would mean a huge buff for the party.

Looking forward for your reply :)

Hello, glad you like the build and thanks for taking time to write some suggestions.

Flame totem with quality is very tanky and you never run into issues where your totems are getting stomped the moment they get dropped on some of the harder bosses with lots of unavoidable AOE damage. On top of that it has DOUBLE the casts per second for better culling. When you have 4 people cranking out 30K dps each, it really makes a difference.

If you were to run incinerate totem, you lose half your culling reliability and a ton of survivability of your totem.. for what exactly? You gain double or tripple the dps, tops to bring you to what, like 2k DPS? When you put it into perspective with the numbers you are providing to your team, it just doesn't feel like a fair trade off for me.

That said, hey bro, if you want to use incinerate go for it, if you think you would enjoy that more you should do it. But I am not sold on it myself :- )

As far as removing faster casting.. it doesn't just provide more reliable culling, it also increases the cast speed which I lay the totem. The sooner the totem is down the sooner I start culling. I can't really see giving that up for a blind, currently as I am running freeze trap the mobs can't move anyways so it wouldn't benefit the team much. However you could try it and if your particular group setup benefits more from it, use it!

This guide is just that, a guide, not a rigid set of constraints. You should play the game the way which provides you with the best experience possible.

Have fun out their and good luck with your loot hunting!

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Azial wrote:

Well for the Curses you could use Remove Curses Flask.

You curse yourself everytime your totems die and that can be kinda often :-/

I would appreciate some help debugging my build. I am somehow not able to get 10 auras going.

It is no problem to put 3 60%-auras and 1 40%-aura on life.

However adding the remaining 4 40%-auras + 1 60%-aura + the mana reg aura does not work. I am at about 30 mana before trying to add the mana reg aura.

Could you let me know what the reservation percentages for the mana-based auras are (60% and 40%) with your setup so that I can start debugging? That would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

Hint: Check the level of his clarity (to save you some time, its lvl 3)

:D

I also ran into the problem of Chaos dmg over time, any solution for this? I take now Rejuvention totem with me, just in case I play such a map.