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the chinamen flood the non hardcore leagues with massive amounts of orbs.
This is the biggest problem as far as fairness.
you simply have more orbs to craft stuff with when the chinamen mass produce them daily.
fair? not at all.
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Posted byHegemonyTV#7983on Nov 15, 2013, 1:59:33 AM
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A HC player, with enough funding, is no different than a SC player as far as PvP goes.. A SC player just doesn't have to spend a 100 Regrets to make up for playing a HC viable build to level up with first.
I think they shouldn't be segregated.
Your character list:
dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore
You would like maybe this, but HC players dont, cause you in a fucking DUMBSTER league, there everything is dumbed all over the place from all sides. I would only agree only if HC players would have an option to join if they want, but softcore players dont, cause its not fair and you know in your heart.
3.15 was a joke. 3.19 was a disaster. Archnemesis/Ruthless/Crucible(Archnemesis 4.0?) - worst ideas. Ruthless is a joke, a waste of resources. PoE2(exilecon version) was super disappointing. Last edited by vahu#5057 on Nov 15, 2013, 2:04:28 AM
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Posted byvahu#5057on Nov 15, 2013, 2:01:23 AMBanned
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I really liked the content update video, but if not having them means you can put more time and energy to the games itself, I'd say do that instead.
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Posted byAllerdyne#2081on Nov 15, 2013, 2:09:28 AM
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vahu wrote:
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Sheriff_K wrote:
A HC player, with enough funding, is no different than a SC player as far as PvP goes.. A SC player just doesn't have to spend a 100 Regrets to make up for playing a HC viable build to level up with first.
I think they shouldn't be segregated.
Your character list:
dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore dumbstercore
You would like maybe this, but HC players dont, cause you in a fucking DUMBSTER league, there everything is dumbed all over the place from all sides. I would only agree only if HC players would have an option to join if they want, but softcore players dont, cause its not fair and you know in your heart.
Nice argue bro, such a HC mature answer Chris should take this feedback.
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Posted bydimraiden#7062on Nov 15, 2013, 2:13:19 AM
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After the extreme amount of whining on this thread, I do not expect HC/Nemesis players to ever comment on their supposed their dominance over SC/Domination players.
It's clear reading through the comments on this thread that the Hardcore players self-identify as class that plays an utterly defensive playstyle geared to their sandbox, and that they think this playstyle isn't competitive across the game as a whole.
Frankly, I think cross-league PvPing should be allowed, so HC vs SC challenges can be put to the test (DPS vs uber-HP stacking). If Aux & co are concerned about their reputations, the stats can reflect ladders specifically for Nemesis and Domination (and HC/SC) separately, while maintaining an overall ladder and pvp records cross-league.
Also, if extreme brow-beating is what it takes to change the devs minds about a key game feature over a couple of hours, it sets a poor precedent for future issues. I know that I have to simply (a) Hijack the first post on a thread, (b) Put up tons of articulate posts, (c) gather minimal support from 1-5 other players - all this to get a major change.
Frankly, the dom vs nem isn't even the real issue -
I PvPd in SC during the two weeks between Anarchy and Domination. About 10-20 of us played regularly. 10 of them formed a guild. They've already iterated so much that they should lead the tables. While other groups might form as the ladders are introduced, there simply isn't enough of an interested population.
(oh, and I've fought Aux in SC as well. fun times - respect him as a player, but he's not as OP as he seems against the Baker fights ;>)
In Domination, the pvp queues are almost always empty. I'd prefer forum time spent by the devs explaining how they plan on making pvp better for everyone rather than holding a conversation with a vocal minority.
I even started this thread on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1obcmt/pvp_feedback/
Disappointingly, there's zero dev participation on the thread despite pretty engaging community commentary.
Chris - spend more time talking to the rest of us. Spend less time acceding to Aux / Kripp demands.
Why you want to play vs HC players, play between yourselfs. With dumbsterleagues, there everything is easier to optain, talents can be class canyons easier. Just join hardcore and see for youself how it feels, when you will understand. As in softcore league you will never understandm you run around with with legacy kaoms and glass canyon talents with over 9009 Spine bows etc. And you are suprised why people dont comment on your reddit enough...
3.15 was a joke. 3.19 was a disaster. Archnemesis/Ruthless/Crucible(Archnemesis 4.0?) - worst ideas. Ruthless is a joke, a waste of resources. PoE2(exilecon version) was super disappointing.
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Posted byvahu#5057on Nov 15, 2013, 2:14:13 AMBanned
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Looking forward for these updates, especially curious about how PvP will turn out.
About the preview patch video, think its a bit over the top and a waste of time for these "smaller" patches. Even though I liked it its not really necessary. But for the larger 4 month ,yes.
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Posted byJillys#3171on Nov 15, 2013, 2:18:47 AM
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You could do a similar system to this here, but most people are not really interested in "Fair" in pvp, they want to be dominant.
You can't in PoE, because of the massive variety of builds. How could you possibly cover all the gearing options? Give people infinite currency and tons of time to roll the gear?
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If the leagues are not playing together, it will only fan the flames of SC vs HC. Our current player base and forum / reddit community constantly insults and degrades the SC community. If PvP does not cross realms, I cannot imagine it will end up any better, and SC PvP will be marginalized as a result. This is the MAJORITY of the player base. You couldn't make a move more destructive to PvP then to marginalized the majority of the player-base.
I think it will be the other way around, the HC pvp being marginalized. Standard is the only place with a real high lvl PvP scene atm. HC players would have been utterly crushed, not just because of gear/passives but because of experience and knowledge.
I say this as someone who plans to participate in events on both Nemesis and Standard. It would have made it easier to advance in Standard with HC players in the pool, but fighting them would hardly be sporting.
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Posted byaimlessgun#1443on Nov 15, 2013, 2:19:05 AMAlpha Member
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Chris will be some kind of ladder for Standard/HC/Dom/Nemesis pvp, or just for the pvp events?
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Posted byAlternalo#7105on Nov 15, 2013, 2:24:25 AM
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Would be great if u add the ability to see list of characters on account (lvl, e.t.c) (f.e. my friend who is in guild, or not) and the characters inventory (link with all the staff and items and gems on it, like you opening the inventory on accaount to view yr own stats and items)
Thanks for reading!
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Posted byebrehgp#5578on Nov 15, 2013, 2:24:30 AM
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vahu wrote:
Why you want to play vs HC players, play between yourselfs. With dumbsterleagues, there everything is easier to optain, talents can be class canyons easier. Just join hardcore and see for youself how it feels, when you will understand. As in softcore league you will never understandm you run around with with legacy kaoms and glass canyon talents with over 9009 Spine bows etc. And you are suprised why people dont comment on your reddit enough...
WTF is a class canyon?
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I can already see the QQ after DOT rework. They said some DOT effects will be made weaker because they can be augmented. I already hear the whining of the League of Butthurt before they even tried the changes.
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Posted bySneakypaw#3052on Nov 15, 2013, 2:28:22 AM
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