Further Update to Map-only Uniques

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Csenky wrote:

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Mahesys wrote:

And again, another stupid update to make the game easier and more noob friendly.

What's so bad in finding the highest tier of uniques in map only? they are supposed to be hard to find, damn.

This game is making the exact same mistakes of D3: listening to the continuos casual wines. Over and over again, i'm tired to see every game ruined by casuals. I want the game to be hard, to be HARDCORE like GGG states, i want the best drops to be hard to find or only droppable in high level content (and thus hard to find)

Why always this policy of "everyone are equal"... NO damn, if you can't farm 70+ maps you deserve to not have the very best equip. and Don't say that items like Kaoms/shav are NEEDED for 72+ maps because is not true, and you know it. Maps until 72-73 can be done with a 4L.

SCREW THIS now i'm pissed

You don't get the main problem. As far as I see, it isn't the casuals who are pissed off, but those who play in solo. Why would any content be only available for 6-men premades? Or to those who spend hours on trading daily? What if I prefer to play in solo, and the item/gem/passive system is deep enough for me to ignore the trading, or make it minimal? It looks kinda impossible to constantly play on 74+ maps without a party, which seems to be bad.

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LeMing wrote:

If I could have a CHANCE of playing last tier of maps I also agree that some uniques can be high level map only. But during the whole open beta I had no chance to play on 74+ map!!! Not because it was too hard. Only because map drop system is broken. This is the ONLY thing I don’t like in PoE.

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Mahesys wrote:

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LeMing wrote:

If I could have a CHANCE of playing last tier of maps I also agree that some uniques can be high level map only. But during the whole open beta I had no chance to play on 74+ map!!! Not because it was too hard. Only because map drop system is broken. This is the ONLY thing I don’t like in PoE.

If you don't have a chance, then you're doing something wrong, you can buy high tier maps too from othger players, you're not forced to find them.

Actually, in Nemesis i'm doing from 68 to 73 maps only self founded, but if i want to, i could easily buy a 74+ map from other players and play it, you need to spend resorces ofc

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Storm007 wrote:

While I'd like to thank you GGG for quick reaction on the item requirement feedback,
I still see no reaction on the (in my opinion) MAIN ISSUE of this whole thread.

The main issue is, as many ppl see it, the impossibility to sustain the map pool, ESPECIALLY in the SOLO play. I think, not many ppl would actually mind having high level item requirements and obtainability only in maps, if there was a mechanism that would reduce (or best remove) the random generator for map drops.

I think, the map system in general is a GREAT IDEA, when i first learnt about it i was really happy about such endgame feature. But the current dropsystem makes it a big failure atm.

I'd offer an easy solution too: have map drop probability/certainty fixed with quality ratio on map. Lets say, 30%Q grants you and -2lvl map drop at least, 50%Q grants you -1lvl map, 80%Q grants you same lvl map at least?
(possibly alternate the %s for solo and party play, as big groups sure have it easier to turn %s higher and solo play is way too much punished here)

I understand that you want to keep the endgame somewhat exclusive, but nowadays its WAY TOO exclusive. Maintaining map pool above lvl 70 is way too harsh, above 72 almost impossible, for sure impossible without group play and massive trading. The currency spent on maps is cost high enough imo, in contrary to running free bosses in nonmaps.

You already promoted group play by auras nerf, why not give some incentive for solo players as well? The possibility to keep the mappool would be great start.
Other incentives, like giving the map-bosses same bonus like act bosses have, would be good too, but we don't want to be greedy. Just the map-drop chances would be great change.

Thanks for reading