Whats the Purpose of Garbage Uniques?
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Some of those aren't that bad, I actually bought a shiversting the other day for a 2h duelist.
Although I agree, some of them are just terrible. I had a stormcloud drop from a 69 map boss the other day. My heart skipped a beat until I realised what it was and vendored it out of spite. Fucking stormcloud. |
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Unique items actually enable an alternative for lore-building. They might not be BiS but look for example at how Ondar's Clasp and Ondar's Flight contribute to the known history of the Eternal Empire.
This is also the feeling I got when I was MFing in D2:LoD. It was like obtaining lost artifacts from fallen heroes or events forgotten by mankind. I would actually want more uniques that tell a story (or have a great theme, from name to mods even if unusable in actual gameplay) but of course in a balance. Like say 150 uniques, some 50 are very useful, 20 are nice at lower-mid level or for a few niche builds and the rest are the "junk" but thematic ones. Though the increased difficulty on farming/crafting what you want (e.g. Infernal Mantle vs Shavronne's) is a different topic on its own. Last edited by ArtificialDream#7232 on Sep 16, 2013, 12:41:50 PM
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Don't mistake lower level uniques for garbage uniques. I use Shiversting on all my 2h characters between lvl 15-45 usually, and the claw is an awesome DPS item for lvl 1. Use it, own everything in one shot with whirling blade, replace when you get better. Those are good useful uniques that many people like.
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" bramblejack is pretty op at lvl 1-5 or so, you dont receive any physical damage at all due to it (from white mobs that is) broadstroke is a great quiver over all doedres tenure, ive used it for leveling my casters greatly reduces mana costs while improving dps by a little the magnate is one of the best belts ive ever seen, im using it on my ek mara to do low maps ( 66-69) greatly boosts damage and i can use quicksilvers non stop ezomyte peak? BIS lv1-10 hat with incredibly high amount of hp and nice damage boost queens decree is a must for any summoner that is leveling voidhome ok this one has too harsh of a penalty , neverthe less u can use it in pvp sin trek, i sometimes find myself using these boots on 75-77 maps(bring em in my inv), really helps to deal with life leech rares(unless u got some insane dps, u cant kill em :)) |
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I've used several of your examples. Of course, I got out of them as soon as I could afford to. I assume that is part of our answer.
Trash uniques can serve an important function. Though I would argue that if you've overcome all the odds required to find a unique, it ought to be special. If the quantity of uniques that dropped had to be significantly reduced in order to make it so every unique was top tier, I'd say do it. I would also argue that PoE has an inordinate amount of trash uniques even if you grant that they serve a purpose. Edit to the OP: These threads won't get you far. Every time someone points out how useless many uniques are, all you get are a bunch or responses about how your examples actually are super useful. Nevermind that they're only useful for the 10 minutes it takes to get to level 6 or only if you have this crazy specific and woefully underpowered build. But man are they 'useful'. New Year's Resolutions: - Chicken Nuggets - No More Bullshit Last edited by Firecrest5#0033 on Sep 16, 2013, 2:35:10 PM
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To OP:
1. "One man's trash..." You don't like it - vendor it. Or be a nice netizen and donate to the needy. Also, there's a stable demand for low-lvl/budget uniques. The ones that drop for me never sit around my stash for long, I sell them for 1 chaos (or 1 fus for actually crappy ones) a piece in no time. 2. Calling a good item crap just because you expect every orange to rop for you to be EPIC LEGENDARY just shows that you're dumb and can't actually the worth of an item, cuz you're too used to the cookie-cutter mentality. Personally, I keep 1,5 stash tabs chock full of these "trash uniques" for personal levelling use. Hell, I even have some of them in multiples on my chars well into their Act 3 Merc! Also, I dare you to call these trash, cause I'll prove you wrong in no time :P. Last edited by T_Reich#5651 on Sep 16, 2013, 4:15:07 PM
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" It's called "i don't know how to use these properly, and don't want to think about it, so these are crap" Yeah. There was explaining already, but i'll post my view. Bramblejack. Saw 6L, maker stated "for PvP" :D Voidhome. PvP also. Broadstroke. Early facebreaker (phys.damage) Magnate. Same thing (many people even use it "lately" facebreaker, like 60+) Ezomyte Peak. And again. FB, phys damage. EK also benefits. Doedre's Tenure. 50% incr.spell damage on level 12 (and after)? Garbage? Really? o_O Queen's Decree & Sin Trek. Dropped\bought for small price - why not use? I see a lot (and i really mean A LOT) of players who have such awful gear (blue\2-3Socket\other) at 50+ So why not use these (and such). Not everyone can afford Void Battery for example. And to OP (yes, already been told but): " Right word to put - IF If you have Marohi\Rainbowstride\etc. As for Foxshade: 300+ EVA, movespeed, often 4L, flat physical damage. Garbage? Just use your brain and stop playing "on the flow" of sporkers and similar. Remember, suffering is convenient.
That is why many people prefer it. Happiness requires effort. |
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" Yes a screen door on a submarine is useful in some cases. For the rest of us who play endgame these uniques are a LOL moment where you link it in chat for everyone in PT to be glad it wasn't them who got it. Then again, I probably don't PT with ppl with awful gear since nonne ever seems to want it. "Hey theah, this is Chris WIlson from Grinding Geah Gaimes. This week Oih'd like to talk to you aboaut using a regal Ohb on youh Tyrannical Tornadoh wand af Destruction! Today is youh daaay and I am answering your prayahs!"
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First off, they aren't all garbage. some are nice in the right build, or the right level bracket.
Secondly, it isn't possible to make a batch of things and not have some of them called garbage. If there were 3 unique bows better than Lioneye's, you would be in here complaining about it being a garbage unique. Seeing as the devs are self-professed mtg fans, I think this article holds some relevance. It's about why bad rares are a necessary part of TCGs, and I think it applies, in part at least, to ARPG uniques. When Good Cards Go Bad The summary of that article, paraphrased to make it about this situation(the word 'card' was changed to 'unique') " |
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