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Alright, alright, I hear (read? get.) you. But I WILL finish 86 season 2 first. Episode 5 just hit me with full force and this is definitely not a point at which I can just stop watching it. Believe me when I say (write? whatever.) that it's really, REALLY hard not to spoil anything. Just know that is awesome. To a degree that I can't even begin to describe without spoiling.

But yes. Yes, I will watch revue startlight after that. You happy now?



Edit:
Well, I finished 86 part 2. Damn. It's been a long, LONG time since I last felt this much of a void after having finished an anime. As always, the worst part is knowing that there is nothing quite like it out there. Oof. Well, guess I have time to watch Revue Starlight now. Probably. If I don't just keep rewatching my favourite scenes from 86.
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Last edited by FCK42#0688 on Apr 24, 2022, 4:12:49 PM
It's a 12 episode show, a recap movie (which you don't have to watch but for the 'twist' ending) and a movie. Suck it up, buttercup.

Still wearing that 86 shirt. Yeah, I don't get out much.

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It's a 12 episode show, a recap movie (which you don't have to watch but for the 'twist' ending) and a movie. Suck it up, buttercup.

I just watched the first episode (again. I remembered having watched it quite a while back midway through). I have one very important question: will all of it actually make sense at some point? Because the first episode is... a LOT to take in. Especially all the names. Please tell me I don't have to memorise all those names. My memory is astonishingly awful when it comes to those.


Edit:
Second episode done. Still confused. Slightly less than before though, also I'm starting to get interested in both the characters and what little of the story I could glimpse at thus far.

Also, is it possible that the Terraria weapon "Starlight" (which is dropped by the Empress of Light in case anyone wants to know) is a reference to this show? It also appears to be a mix between sabre and rapier and appears to have a gem embedded into the cross-section of handle and guard. Also, the guards look quite similar.
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just two words:

Paripi Koumei

./dance
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Ya Boy Kongming has been on our radar for ages. Definitely high on the list when we resume watching streaming anime.

Restarted Dennou Coil, made it up to episode 6 on BD for the night. What a show. So gorgeously animated in that peak Madhouse kind of way -- no stand-out sakuga, just fluid character movement all the time.

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I think Revue Starlight makes sense by the end, but then again I was okay with Utena, Kuma Arashi, and Sarazanmai. I've also seen the core series 3 times and the movie twice now (rewatched it yesterday). There's a strong measure of staged symbolism throughout the whole thing -- you'll never be outright told what the Auditions are, what the Giraffe is, or why the stage space is so surreal and impossible. But then again, I reckon you've seen enough anime to not need any of those provided you are invested in the characters, their motivations and the overall themes.

It's not really a 'discuss each episode as you go' type show. It's a watch them all and process for yourself experience.

The movie ends the core story decisively, although the mobile game's story is ongoing in that 'frozen time endless events' kind of way.

Most importantly, it's not an idol show. It might look like one, but the entire culture behind stage girls/Takarazuka is very different to idol units. After all, there can only be one Top Star...



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The only thing I've seen of Ya boy Kongming is the opening and to me the show is already an absolute banger supreme. If the series itself is even just a FRACTION as fun as the opening is, then boy oh boy is it gonna be a damn good time.

Seriously, you could probably slap that bad boy smack in the middle of your average party song playlist and I'm pretty sure nobody would notice.
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Just a little Overview of the current season by me. Well at least the things i watched. Some thing are still i progress^^

Kaguya-sama, spyXFam, Ya boy - The godly comedy lineup!

machikado mazoku s2 - MM s2 continues where s1 left off so nothing more is needed to be said.

aharen-san was not that interesting as i thought, maybe it will get better, but somethings missing for me at least.

Kawaii dake ja Nai Shikimori-san - The premise might me interesting but it get old fast, at least in the first episodes. Wasn't able to get me interested, but i'm not the romance buff anyway.

Yuusha, Yamemasu - or Mansplaining the anime. but it does have its moments^^

Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road - or if munou no nana and railgun had a baby. Just to get it out of the way, yes this is a yuri show. And yes it feels like this will get really dark. But as the JC staff railgun team is clearly involved, it will look good.

Koi wa Sekai Seifuku no Ato de - Gelato Five go!! Ok here there is the romance anime which was able to keep me interested, not really because of the romance through but the comedy

Mahoutsukai Reimeiki - Or how to kill a good premise. The grimoire of zero was awesome and build a a very interesting world, now its successor gives us unnecessary loli fanservice and bad animation. MC kuns amnesia is just the icing on the cake. maybe it will get better, and hopefully soon.

Honzuki s3 - Its the same as always, but i think the animation gets better? maaaaybe.

Deaimon - the genji tale entry without going all the way, like usagi drop really. not my cup of tea.

Kono Healer, Mendokusai - i wholeheartly agree, that was too much even for me -.-

This season is a gift of the heavens I tell you, so maaaany good shows yay.


Finally, little bit of trivia a Hungarian friend of mine told me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjLbePQg1o

yes xD


and late night edit:
was aware netflix would make this:
https://anilist.co/anime/144677/BASTARD-Ankoku-no-Hakaishin
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Ok, that Revue Starlight episode 7 just hit me out of nowhere. I was NOT expecting that development. Or is it prior development? You know what I mean. I know you know what I mean.

Spoilers for Revue Starlight I guess
What the hell. Not even once did I think that Nana was that ridiculously strong. And crazy? Cought up in the past? Obsessive? One of those. Her actually NOT singing in the ED also made sense. Since all she's interested in is the 99th Seisho festival with the Starlight performance of the 99th class. NOTHING elseappears to matter to her.

Also, you should really, REALLY watch part 2 of 86, Charan. Seriously. Hell, I didn't even notice it had a damn Sawano soundtrack because of how good story and characters were. And that's saying something. After listening to it again multiple times (because it's in one specific scene I just keep on rewatching because reasons), I gotta admit that one song in particular hits like a truck. And not just in the usual Sawano drop way.
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Alright, I've finished Revue Starlight. That was... something. I'm not sure what exactly, but it definitely was. I'm quite sure that I din't get even a fraction of what they were trying to tell in the series, let alone the movie.

It's definitely a great series, but I'm far, FAR too incompetent at interpretations that I could come to any sort of conclusion as to what it actually represents. The film, while making sense now that I think about it, mostly confused me while watching. A lot of it felt completely out of nowhere to me.

Also, did they throw in a fucking "Mad Max: Fury Road" reference in the end? What the hell?

Probably the most nitpicky of nitpicks I had with the Revue Starlight movie
Those 2ish seconds Hikari and Mahiru were shown fencing annoyed the everliving shit out of me. That stage was clearly meant to represent the olympic games, yet that fencing part in particular was ALL kinds of wrong.

Their stance was wrong, mahiru was leaning forward to the point where she would've gotten a warning at least. Both of them were also in a stance that can only be described as catastrophic. Mahiru was standing in what was probably supposed to be a finished lunge, yet it looked more like she was somewhere in the middle of getting back to the default stance, while Hikari was shown in lunge properly DESPITE BEING ON THE DEFENCE. A lunge is a HEAVILY offense focused move. So much so that it's barely even used in epee fencing because it leaves your defense far too open. It makes NO sense for Hikari doing one here.

The weapons they were using were foils, yet the equipment they wore was that for epee fencing, which was further supported by mahiru aiming for Hikari's head, which isn't a legal hit zone in foil fencing. They were also using french grips, though that could just have been personal preference of them, but it's used rather rarely nowadays.

As for one last thing with this scene, the blades were seen crossed on Hikari's right side in the first shot, then on her left side in the second. Which was kinda confusing.

All in all, I'd put the series in the same kind of "beautiful yet confusing" category as Children of the Sea. But nowhere near the same level, THAT one was straight up trippy.




TL;DR: I finished Revue Starlight, including the movie and am now in a state of utter confusion as to what I've just watched. Overall an amazing show, but I won't pretend that I understood even half of it.
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Welcome to the club. :)

And yes, that was totally a MM:FR nod near the end of the movie and it was glorious.

Episode 7 is the turn, of course, and yes, it's been signposted the entire way. Nana is the last in the sequence of walking girls in the intro, and she is clearly marked as the tallest, height being something the show points out as an unfair advantage for stage girls. She is in most of the scenes, just watching or taking photos. She says things like 'huh, that's new' when a character does something that they hadn't in a previous loop, and then sort of goes with it. It's not unlike some of Ni~Paa!'s reactions in Higurashi. She is kukugumi's de facto big sister, always there to take care of them (charming, until you know it's more like a game to her than genuine concern). There isn't just foreshadowing with Nana, it's all there and impossible to miss once you know.

With Kagura's arrival, the gears start to turn backwards. At the start of episode 1. She breaks the cycle. And I think the Giraffe lets her in to shake things up, or maybe the strength of Karen and Hikari's promise finally wins through. That one, I'm not sure about.

How awesome was that fourth wall break by the Giraffe near the end? We lost it. Fucker basically blamed us for the show and all the trauma it put them through, just so we could enjoy some singing, dancing and fighting. The Giraffe was definitely right.

Regarding the movie, in no real order: that massacre on the train. Good grief.

Tendo Maya vs Claudine Saijo was intensely satisfying because not only did it get the best animation, it was a HUGE gap in the original series. They had a lot of lesbian tension to deal with, and they dealt with it perfectly. 'For me, there is you.' *chef's kiss*

As for the fencing, put it down to everything else that's 'off' -- it's more a stage interpretation of fencing rather than the actual sport. That whole sequence just reinforced what we all already knew: Mahiru is fucking scary.

Junna FINALLY standing toe to toe with Nana. Yes. That one cut with her flying in WITH NANA'S SWORD...yes. Very yes.

And Wagamama Highway (Kaoruko and Futaba's revue) embraced a bunch of 'adult' scenes that tell us this is it. This is how they see themselves, five or ten years from now. Animation of KuroMaya's clash aside, that was probably my favourite revue.

As for the trains, well, characters become cars at the end of the Utena movie, so I guess there's that. I think we'd need to really sit back and think about what 'trains' mean in Japan, because this hardly the first time I've seen them used as a metaphor for confronting maturity in anime (see: O Maidens, but also Eva in a way). As Wild Screen Baroque says, the train WILL arrive at the next station without fail. In other words, you're going to grow up one way or another. So...what do you do? What's your next stage?


The entire movie had a maturity to it that neither the series nor the game allow, and that's why I think it was pretty much flawless as a tv series movie conclusion. There was no feeling of 'side story' or 'high quality filler'. You knew this was the end and that the girls had to deal with that. Had to face the conflicts and friction that the series really only sort of introduced. It couldn't have been better in that respect.


The ONLY stuff that wasn't blatantly mature were the flashbacks, and they were very deliberately done in a watercolour style, which slowly faded away as Karen got older. Probably one of the less subtle stylistic choices of the movie.

Something you'd only see on rewatches: virtually every scene in the entire show, series and movie, has a pink sparkle in it. It might just be a nice touch, but I think it's the brilliance of all the stage girls who've come before, dispersed throughout the world of Starlight.

Anyway, now you wakarimasu. Or do you wakarimasu? Wakarimasu.



Yeah, 86 2 isn't going anywhere. We will get to it. It's just not top of my list right now or the GF's, and we sort of take turns. I doubt we will jump on the current season so chances are we'll do all of paripari or bookworm first. Top of MY list is Eureka 7, which I've waited years and years to see and finally got as a set. Then there's LOGH, which will probably also be 'done' by the time we get back to streaming stuff. But 86? I know it's very, very, very good. No further pushing required.

Watched Bubble though. Aesthetically it was everything it said it would be, but Urobuchi totally didn't write that. He confirmed it in a tweet a while back: he had the initial ideas, but a few other writers actually assembled the pieces. It was...good. You have to see it, preferably on as big a screen as possible, but no one will be talking about it beyond its beauty before long.

Dennoh Coil draws close to its end. I have thoughts, but I will reserve them for now. I can see why it gets compared to Lain a lot.

As for Bastard!!, I'm keeping my expectations tempered very hard. It's Lidenfilms. They will probably make a perfectly functional adaptation of a then popular 90s-00s manga that ripples no ponds, much as they did with the underrated Blade of the Immortal. To say I'm a Bastard!! fan would be an epic understatement: I scanlated the first few volumes for fun back in the day, used 'Dark-Schneider' as my Bnet name circa 1995, and when I finally met Dark Schneider's seiyuu Kazuki Yao right before Covid, I got a cel of DS from the OVA I'd picked up in Akiba years and years ago signed. I was waiting for that exact moment. He was almost as impressed as I was.

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