0.11.4 Patch Notes

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entropus wrote:
As a side note, if a player with -1000IQ does not spend and hour a day to dig through forums and search for vague GGG's statement of whether something is considered and exploit and something is not, he/she will not know that bm/rm/covenant/ah/malachai swap is considered as that.


LOL, LOL, LOL ... seriously nothing else to add, and fixed for ya. Because if you cant figure out by yourself the covenant / alpha howl glitches arent intended, after mucking around with items and areas and still receiving the bonus from an UNEQUIPPED item, there is something really and severely broken with your common sense.

ALso lol'd at calling a bug like that a game mechanic. thanks for the laugh.
Last edited by jsn006#2582 on Aug 16, 2013, 5:53:51 AM
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iamstryker wrote:
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Deize wrote:
And you think it's good thinking and desinging by GGG if life builds get FUCKED by fixing a bug? Maybe they should do it other way around. FIRST get life builds in line with CI and then fix this "bug"?


There's a lot of things I would figure that GGG would do by now but I'm not a developer and have learned things about developing recently that I did not know. For example someone recenlty asked the devs why the hell they haven't fixed ALL of these bugs by now and their response was that they would have but it takes a long time.

I'm going to guess that their testing on life is taking awhile and in the meantime they are fixing this bug because they finally can.

I decided never to mess with bugs so my life build is still functional. Now you can play an elitest and hurl nerd terms like scrub all you want. I play the highest content that I find and do just fine.


I'm talking about game balance here. As you propably know CI/shavronnes builds are by FAR the best builds in game already. These changes makes build diversity even worse and there's actually no point in going life builds anymore.

Also when GGG do things this way, soon there is no one to test life builds for them so that they could balance it somehow.

Sure I still can get all the same auras running with a little less than 2x life cost than earlier but I can't get any other skills to by gems slots than auras + 1 attack skill. And this is just example of my build. Same problem goes for other builds also.
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Zoen wrote:
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entropus wrote:
You are not aware noone takes BM node to be able to stack 3-4 auras on mana?

You are not aware that my Duelist can't maintain a mana upkeep with his attack speed and I'd rather not link Blood Magic or Mana Leech to his attack, nor would stacking Mana Leech give me enough mana income to sustain his attack.

I do just fine solely with Grace, thank you.


4 auras VS one socket?

Wouldn't you get more DPS using Wratch, Hatred, Anger and more surivability using Determination (stacks nice with Grace and IR) and Purity? The melee players I play with never use blood magic node because they get heaps of dps/survi with auras on mana in exchange for one socket less.

edit: Wait you use ONE aura O_O Master, teach me.
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jsn006 wrote:
120 extra life reserved is not such a big impact as you make it sound. Dropping 1 dps aura is not so bad, I dont know why every one feels the extreme need to take all the auras in the game. That was never the core intention of auras, to take ALL of them, and if anything it doesnt showcase a problem with hp / covenant - but with dps and damage nodes.


120 extra life with one aura less. And I will have to drop 2 offensive auras, because of lost socket, which counts as 15% of my DPS. I don't care if it balance or bug fix, decreasing stats of my character is for me, mathematically nerf.

But as I wrote, I have means for counteract this. I just found this mechanism fun and this fun is taken and I'm thinking if it's worth to use those means.

And please, don't explain this to me again. I understand your point of view, I just don't care about your opinion.

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entropus wrote:
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Zoen wrote:
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entropus wrote:
You are not aware noone takes BM node to be able to stack 3-4 auras on mana?

You are not aware that my Duelist can't maintain a mana upkeep with his attack speed and I'd rather not link Blood Magic or Mana Leech to his attack, nor would stacking Mana Leech give me enough mana income to sustain his attack.

I do just fine solely with Grace, thank you.


4 auras VS one socket?

Wouldn't you get more DPS using Wratch, Hatred, Anger and more surivability using Determination (stacks nice with Grace and IR) and Purity? The melee players I play with never use blood magic node because they get heaps of dps/survi with auras on mana in exchange for one socket less.

edit: Wait you use ONE aura O_O Master, teach me.


leave him alone ... he is happy playing with one aura. You guys should learn. If anything, this issue only proves that there is a problem with the NEED to grab as much auras as one can because dps / hp / res / armor given by nodes and gear isnt enough. And thats the core issue here, not a darn bug that you all wish could stay in the game.

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Deize wrote:
Do you realise that you lose 3-4 auras from mana, which atleast 3 of them are DEFENSIVE AURAS. Again you seem to be lvl 83 and from scrubleague where u can just die and die and I bet you've never played 74+ Maps.


Lol, yet there are more 90-100 levels on 'scrubcore' ... and im sure they did it by dying and dying and dying.

Facepalm, just because someone isnt retarded enough to play a league where you can lose everything overnight to a lag or desync or d/c, doesnt make them any inferior of a player.

Nice on you to assume he never did 74+ maps, too. What a jerk.

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tmaciak wrote:
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jsn006 wrote:
120 extra life reserved is not such a big impact as you make it sound. Dropping 1 dps aura is not so bad, I dont know why every one feels the extreme need to take all the auras in the game. That was never the core intention of auras, to take ALL of them, and if anything it doesnt showcase a problem with hp / covenant - but with dps and damage nodes.


120 extra life with one aura less. And I will have to drop 2 offensive auras, because of lost socket, which counts as 15% of my DPS. I don't care if it balance or bug fix, decreasing stats of my character is for me, mathematically nerf.

But as I wrote, I have means for counteract this. I just found this mechanism fun and this fun is taken and I'm thinking if it's worth to use those means.

And please, don't explain this to me again. I understand your point of view, I just don't care about your opinion.



Well, with that attitude, neither do I, darn cheaters, lol. You are playing a free game, in a beta stage, I dont understand why you have to complain about changes to BUGS and feel so entitled about your fun being taken away in a free game to boot. Selfish / 10
Last edited by jsn006#2582 on Aug 16, 2013, 6:00:52 AM
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entropus wrote:
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Zoen wrote:
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entropus wrote:
You are not aware noone takes BM node to be able to stack 3-4 auras on mana?

You are not aware that my Duelist can't maintain a mana upkeep with his attack speed and I'd rather not link Blood Magic or Mana Leech to his attack, nor would stacking Mana Leech give me enough mana income to sustain his attack.

I do just fine solely with Grace, thank you.


4 auras VS one socket?

Wouldn't you get more DPS using Wratch, Hatred, Anger and more surivability using Determination (stacks nice with Grace and IR) and Purity? The melee players I play with never use blood magic node because they get heaps of dps/survi with auras on mana in exchange for one socket less.

edit: Wait you use ONE aura O_O Master, teach me.

How many of those people do you know have 22 attacks per second and able to get (at max) 220 hits + 11000 HP per second?
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jsn006 wrote:
You are playing a free game, in a beta stage, I dont understand why you have to complain about changes to BUGS and feel so entitled about your fun being taken away in a free game to boot. Selfish / 10


I supported GGG with more than 200$. It's much, much more than I spend on one game in 25 years of active gaming. Yes, I'm selfish probably.
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tmaciak wrote:
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jsn006 wrote:
You are playing a free game, in a beta stage, I dont understand why you have to complain about changes to BUGS and feel so entitled about your fun being taken away in a free game to boot. Selfish / 10


I supported GGG with more than 200$. It's much, much more than I spend on one game in 25 years of active gaming. Yes, I'm selfish probably.


(1) Was your choice? I do NOT remember getting the memo from GGG stating 'Give us your money or we are never going into Open beta' Also never got the memo stating 'We will never fix ingame bugs or change anything else during open beta'

(2) Learn meaning of the word 'beta'

That they shouldnt fix a bug because you gave them 200$ + is preposterous at the very least, and plain absurd at most. There are people who spent far more (lol hi charan) and I'm sure want this game to go in the right direction, at least in this regard.
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