What is happening?

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playing Elder scrolls Oblivion. The 0.2 patch completely destroyed my minions build 3 different minion builds levels 86, 94, 96 now even if i try to do a map or 2 the game feels so wrong; loot drops, bugs, crafting, trading, everything is a disaster


So the nerfs made your minion builds go from overpowered to average and now you suddenly see the real flaws of the game. Welcome to the real world.
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
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playing Elder scrolls Oblivion. The 0.2 patch completely destroyed my minions build 3 different minion builds levels 86, 94, 96 now even if i try to do a map or 2 the game feels so wrong; loot drops, bugs, crafting, trading, everything is a disaster


So the nerfs made your minion builds go from overpowered to average and now you suddenly see the real flaws of the game. Welcome to the real world.
That's not a scientifically true claim, based on the information available.
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What's happening is that all the streamers got tired and ran away from the game, and people just got bored because PoE 2's current vision is "CBT Simulator 9000".
Or as other people call it "Ruthless 2.0". Because that's what it is, lets not beat around the bush here. Ruthless in PoE 1 was absolutely a beta to "test the waters" and see how the community would react to this type of design. And barely anyone plays that ghost town of a gamemode lol

That and also other more fun and attractive games are coming out, siphoning away more players and viewers. I expect the returning players will be at least cut by 50% again for 0.3, so the peak will be like 130-150k max when that comes out lmao
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There are 3.8k viewers for PoE 2 and 173 for PoE 1 as of writing this on Twitch. Last Epoch has only 10k viewers so it’s not that. No other game really has the lion’s share so what is happening? Is there a boycott?

Is GGG in danger? I recall Chris saying so long as they had X amount (I think he said 100k) concurrent logins every day they would be ok. Given the state, I can’t see them reaching this number.

I’ve been playing PoE 1 since 2014 and have never really seen numbers dip this low and stay there. What did I miss?

Oblivion remake has the lionshare right now.

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There are 3.8k viewers for PoE 2 and 173 for PoE 1 as of writing this on Twitch. Last Epoch has only 10k viewers so it’s not that. No other game really has the lion’s share so what is happening? Is there a boycott?

Is GGG in danger? I recall Chris saying so long as they had X amount (I think he said 100k) concurrent logins every day they would be ok. Given the state, I can’t see them reaching this number.

I’ve been playing PoE 1 since 2014 and have never really seen numbers dip this low and stay there. What did I miss?


This game is done for. Jonathan has made it totally clear that he has his own vision and he doesn't care player base. He can create his own niche game but majority has lost its interests and it will be quite hard to get it back.
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
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playing Elder scrolls Oblivion. The 0.2 patch completely destroyed my minions build 3 different minion builds levels 86, 94, 96 now even if i try to do a map or 2 the game feels so wrong; loot drops, bugs, crafting, trading, everything is a disaster


So the nerfs made your minion builds go from overpowered to average and now you suddenly see the real flaws of the game. Welcome to the real world.
That's not a scientifically true claim, based on the information available.


You can only say that if you don't know how science works or if you do, but hope that others don't.
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Naharez#3496 wrote:
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Naharez#3496 wrote:

So the nerfs made your minion builds go from overpowered to average and now you suddenly see the real flaws of the game. Welcome to the real world.
That's not a scientifically true claim, based on the information available.


You can only say that if you don't know how science works or if you do, but hope that others don't.
You should better look up "scientifically" because from what you write, you give the impression that you don't understand what that word means.

The information we had:
- he played minions in 0.1
- the patch 0.2 "destroyed" his builds
- the game feels wrong now

Your "scientific" statement is based on the power of his builds, I quote:
"your minion builds go from overpowered to average", while there is no information in his statement about him playing an overpowered minion build in the first place; thus, your statement does not follow scientific criteria.
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It is the usual cycle. When the poe1 templates come out, it will get attention for a week or two. Then poe2's 0.2g update will get it for a week or two, then D4, then LE, and then 3.26...
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The information we had:
- he played minions in 0.1
- the patch 0.2 "destroyed" his builds
- the game feels wrong now

Your "scientific" statement is based on the power of his builds, I quote:
"your minion builds go from overpowered to average", while there is no information in his statement about him playing an overpowered minion build in the first place; thus, your statement does not follow scientific criteria.


Yeah my mind was in another thread while I quoted that. My mistake.
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There are 3.8k viewers for PoE 2 and 173 for PoE 1 as of writing this on Twitch. Last Epoch has only 10k viewers so it’s not that. No other game really has the lion’s share so what is happening? Is there a boycott?

Is GGG in danger? I recall Chris saying so long as they had X amount (I think he said 100k) concurrent logins every day they would be ok. Given the state, I can’t see them reaching this number.

I’ve been playing PoE 1 since 2014 and have never really seen numbers dip this low and stay there. What did I miss?

Oblivion remake has the lionshare right now.



Getting ready for an Oblivion marathon tonight.

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