Jonathan was right, CHALLENGE IS REQUIRED to have fun

But by mean challenge, we talk about the real challenge, not the slog bosses. We should do more damage and they should have less HP pool, but have meaningful combat.

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent. There is no optimizing gear, you just equip better numbers and you are good to go. You almost facetank every boss in there. Its insanely easy from start to end game, people are already on full equipment, almost nothing left for them to look forward.

Jonathan was right when he said, some kind of challenge is required to have fun. We need that challenge, that mind set is awesome. They just need to get it right and then this game is golden.

Fingers crossed for 0.3 league.

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Kage#1250 wrote:

But by mean challenge, we talk about the real challenge, not the slog bosses. We should do more damage and they should have less HP pool, but have meaningful combat.

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent. There is no optimizing gear, you just equip better numbers and you are good to go. You almost facetank every boss in there. Its insanely easy from start to end game, people are already on full equipment, almost nothing left for them to look forward.

Jonathan was right when he said, some kind of challenge is required to have fun. We need that challenge, that mind set is awesome. They just need to get it right and then this game is golden.

Fingers crossed for 0.3 league.

More rage bait ontop of the mountains of it on the forums right now over something thats never going to happen.


Im yet to see a single thing Johnathan hyped up on the pre-release interviews for PoE2 hold up 6 months in. Challenge is good. Challenge is what made PoE, well PoE.

But what they pulled recently has nothing to do with LE, its poor execution on a vision they obviously have no idea themselves what they want. A lie. A farce we were sold on.

They've had a successful title for almost 12 years and decided to smash 2 genres together along with some of the most unpopular league mechanics and sell us the mutated cow patty thats left over as a successor.

They only flinched and walked back their silly nerfs because a good chunk of the community and media turned on them.

the slog strikes again!

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Kage#1250 wrote:

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent.

yes it's emulating a mobile game and that's how mobile games work

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Kage#1250 wrote:

But by mean challenge, we talk about the real challenge, not the slog bosses. We should do more damage and they should have less HP pool, but have meaningful combat.

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent. There is no optimizing gear, you just equip better numbers and you are good to go. You almost facetank every boss in there. Its insanely easy from start to end game, people are already on full equipment, almost nothing left for them to look forward.

Jonathan was right when he said, some kind of challenge is required to have fun. We need that challenge, that mind set is awesome. They just need to get it right and then this game is golden.

Fingers crossed for 0.3 league.

You experienced LE last night (sounds like the first time) and think you know how the endgame is?

And what do you mean by full equipment? You mean items they can use and aren't trash? Or the uniques they need? Because if you think anyone is even close to having his endgame gear, you are mistaken.

Everybody knows that LE is less "challenging" than PoE1, but the "challenge" Jonathan has as his "vision"... is just bla.

u clearly havent played LE on somewhat high corruption xD
poe 2 right now is WAY TO HARD , Dying left and right to one shoots is not meaningful combat its there just to make the game "harder" to annoy players , it it does it job im am MAD many players are Mad and twitch number shows it all 3k concurrent viewers.
they must remove the constant one shoots and fix defenses .

Wanna laugh when people said Last Epoch is a walk in the park. They take stupid design as challenging and great design as simple.

What a world we live in.

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After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent. There is no optimizing gear, you just equip better numbers and you are good to go. You almost facetank every boss in there. Its insanely easy from start to end game, people are already on full equipment, almost nothing left for them to look forward.

Same happened with D3 back in the days. Whiners whined that "loot is bad" and "Inferno is difficult" and then D3 became a joke where literally everybody got exactly same BIS items on Day 2-3 and oneclicked every single monster, with all Season Challanges done in 24 hours or less.

Literally Nothing about POE2 is hard rn

Defences are shit so u die to everything

When u die u lose currency that u put in ur map u lose the map and also u lose the mods FROM that map u also lose XP
and eventually just lose motivation to play

Gear is not hard to get ITS JUST RNG on RNG on top of more RNG
(Due to crap crafting)

White mobs still too tanky
Bosses are simple af but bullet sponges which doesnt make gthe fights meaning full but boring af and sluggish

Built variety to somewhat have fun beside all those negatives just isnt there either more than 50% players play the same build.....

They nerfed gemlin to the ground just to yet again face another UBER build and DONT EVEN nerf that!

Also Gearing by trading is almost IMPOSSIBLE because u cant really farm currency nor the specific gear -> Due to the fact of that ritual tablet exploit at the start of the league the eco is because of it so fuked up u can barely trade with anyone



Dont get me wrong i like this game i just dont like where this is going and i cant see the vision of a "Soulslike POE"

for 2 reasons

1. POE = Shit load of mobs
Souls like = Almost NO MOBS but huge rewards for those u kill

2. if Poe2 goes soulslike ppl wont feel that power fantasy anymore that this genre makes u usually feel
if that is gone ppl will be gone and numbers tell the truth about that

40% positive on steam
3-4k viewers on twitch while LE has 70K
and even forum is full of negativity

thats a downspiraling trend and if nothing changes i dont see poe2 going far
Just accept that the vision already died

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Kage#1250 wrote:

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent.

LE campaign is very easy (and you can race it in 2.5 hrs). The challenge in LE is in the endgame... and it is there. If you want a campaign challenge search for "Cursed Veterans Boots".

The challenge is obviously there in POE2... they need to work on build balance, build flexibility, crafting determinism, and figure out how to make reactive multi-button builds stronger than single button screen-nuke builds in the endgame.

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Kage#1250 wrote:

But by mean challenge, we talk about the real challenge, not the slog bosses. We should do more damage and they should have less HP pool, but have meaningful combat.

After experiencing Last Epoch last night, I don't want my PoE 2 to be like that ever. You walk down the path, monsters die after smelling your scent. There is no optimizing gear, you just equip better numbers and you are good to go. You almost facetank every boss in there. Its insanely easy from start to end game, people are already on full equipment, almost nothing left for them to look forward.

Jonathan was right when he said, some kind of challenge is required to have fun. We need that challenge, that mind set is awesome. They just need to get it right and then this game is golden.

Fingers crossed for 0.3 league.

You talk about CHALLENGE, but you completed only 7 in settlers. You problably didn't killed a single UBER in PoE 2, so I guess this OP is just trolling talking about things he doesn't know