There's "Grimdark," then there's just... clumsy and ignorant. [SPOILERS]

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This is not what happens. Alva is peacefull until they attack her. Alva is in awe of the culture and loaths to fight them. IF the indeginous poeple would be peacefull, they woudl have tried to communicate, they just attack you and Alva.

Maybe im wrong, but i got a feeling you are one of these poeple that try to find "social injustice" in everything...


See my above response, someone has already made this point and I fundamentally disagree: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3728380#p25984576
I admit, I wasn't expecting to see the snowflake, namecalling troupe when I decided to give a quick look to the feedback forum.

GGG, you have a good idea for a world and its story, don't listen to this kind of feedback.
Whether it is the player, or the NPCs antagonistic to the player, but both sides in PoE will always do whatever it takes to gain more power and curbstomp the other.

You can only kill so many millions of mobs for currency and come away as the good guy. How any PoE civilization ever managed to retain enough agriculture and stable conditions in safe to live in areas is beyond me.
I agree with OP. I don't think the writing in PoE2 is very good. Don't get me wrong, I love both PoE1 and PoE2, and I'm a huge fan of GGG. So, this is coming from a place of love, not hate. But the writing for the story, setting, and characters is really not compelling in PoE2.

In PoE1, I get really choked up and sad when I see lady Dallia in Act 9. I cheer whenever I hear the Ranger say, "Do some good for once in your sorry life, bandit. Feed the worms." I think it's super cute when Dannig shyly wonders how to flirt with Isla. I feel pride when Einhar talks about hunting or Niko talks about mining. You can feel the passion in the characters and it's clear that they care about someone or something. Like, how Clarrisa gets hung up on Tolman, or Helena talks about Gruest. I still think about that.

I couldn't tell you anything memorable about the PoE2 campaign or characters. They seem super cliche, shallow, and unrelatable. I couldn't give you a single quote from PoE2, because they're completely forgettable.

I don't know why the PoE2 writing is like that, but it's not good. PoE1 writing and lore wasn't dark. It was actually beautiful, because you could tell that everyone cared about something, even Piety. Maybe to the point of hubris and folly or obsession, but they did.
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I agree with OP. I don't think the writing in PoE2 is very good. Don't get me wrong, I love both PoE1 and PoE2, and I'm a huge fan of GGG. So, this is coming from a place of love, not hate. But the writing for the story, setting, and characters is really not compelling in PoE2.

In PoE1, I get really choked up and sad when I see lady Dallia in Act 9. I cheer whenever I hear the Ranger say, "Do some good for once in your sorry life, bandit. Feed the worms." I think it's super cute when Dannig shyly wonders how to flirt with Isla. I feel pride when Einhar talks about hunting or Niko talks about mining. You can feel the passion in the characters and it's clear that they care about someone or something. Like, how Clarrisa gets hung up on Tolman, or Helena talks about Gruest. I still think about that.

I couldn't tell you anything memorable about the PoE2 campaign or characters. They seem super cliche, shallow, and unrelatable. I couldn't give you a single quote from PoE2, because they're completely forgettable.

I don't know why the PoE2 writing is like that, but it's not good. PoE1 writing and lore wasn't dark. It was actually beautiful, because you could tell that everyone cared about something, even Piety. Maybe to the point of hubris and folly or obsession, but they did.


Genuinely, thanks for engaging in good faith.

I've been talking this over with the friends I've been playing with, and we all agree, the writing is just not stellar. It's okay, at times, but overall it's weak writing across the board. A friend of mine was even harsh enough to call it 'hack pulp,' aaaand I don't disagree. It's full of lamp-shading, inconsistent and strange characterization, just... lots of flat, cardboard standees who could be more. And that's a shame if that's a big departure from POE1.

And then those writing problems landslide into the questionable visuals, creating this messy, unpalatable experience. I don't expect perfection, but... don't long-time fans deserve something better? Hell, don't new comers deserve something cool and fresh to come into, not utterly exhausted tropes that we all should have learned from ages ago?

It seems like you really care about the series, sorry you've also been let down by this. Here's hoping GGG hears the few of us concerned with the direction of the writing and story and takes those concerns into consideration. I'm hopeful but worried for this game, I would like to see it flourish and succeed.

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