I've been reporting scammers spamming Unidentified Stellar Amulets in trade chat for 20-80 div that are actually Strugglescream which is worth 1 exalt.
It's been going on for days and they spam literally every few minutes yet GGG does nothing at all to attempt to stop them.
Being scammed out of that many divine orbs is enough to make most people quit the game entirely and likely accounts for a large percentage of the player base that has already been lost.
If the scammers are never punished in any way then why even bother making the game at all? Nobody wants to play a game where people are allowed to rip you off and steal your hard earned currency.
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Posted byTessderosa#0452on Feb 22, 2025, 10:11:36 AM
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I've been reporting scammers spamming Unidentified Stellar Amulets in trade chat for 20-80 div that are actually Strugglescream which is worth 1 exalt.
It's been going on for days and they spam literally every few minutes yet GGG does nothing at all to attempt to stop them.
Being scammed out of that many divine orbs is enough to make most people quit the game entirely and likely accounts for a large percentage of the player base that has already been lost.
If the scammers are never punished in any way then why even bother making the game at all? Nobody wants to play a game where people are allowed to rip you off and steal your hard earned currency.
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I understand they're busy but they need to allocate at least one ressource for this for a month to clean the trash. This is straight up a heart breaking scam for a new player and I see it getting spammed in the trade chat. Whoever does that should straight up be permanently banned.
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Posted byOinkaments#6390on Feb 22, 2025, 10:15:23 AM
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I've been reporting scammers spamming Unidentified Stellar Amulets in trade chat for 20-80 div that are actually Strugglescream which is worth 1 exalt.
It's been going on for days and they spam literally every few minutes yet GGG does nothing at all to attempt to stop them.
Being scammed out of that many divine orbs is enough to make most people quit the game entirely and likely accounts for a large percentage of the player base that has already been lost.
If the scammers are never punished in any way then why even bother making the game at all? Nobody wants to play a game where people are allowed to rip you off and steal your hard earned currency.
+1
I understand they're busy but they need to allocate at least one ressource for this for a month to clean the trash. This is straight up a heart breaking scam for a new player and I see it getting spammed in the trade chat. Whoever does that should straight up be permanently banned.
I'd be fine even with just a 1 week suspension for their first time being caught, just SOMETHING to discourage the behavior, but it definitely should lead to a permanent ban if they continue scamming new players like this. 1 Scammer being banned can save hundreds of new players from quitting very easily.
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Posted byTessderosa#0452on Feb 22, 2025, 10:24:18 AM
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This is exactly why we need an auction house. Auction houses would prevent most scams.
The fact that mirror scams are even happening in POE2 is also a failure. You could program the trade window to allow a player to mirror an item in the trade window, which would put the mirror greyed out (signalling it would be consumed), alongside the newly mirrored item. Then the mirror would only complete if the trade is accepted, which guarantees the person offering a mirror service also gets their 30 div fee.
GGG easily have the power to prevent these types of scams, and are willfully negligent in their refusal to do so. Disgusting.
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Posted by92ranger#4205on Feb 22, 2025, 10:29:07 AM
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This is exactly why we need an auction house. Auction houses would prevent most scams.
The fact that mirror scams are even happening in POE2 is also a failure. You could program the trade window to allow a player to mirror an item in the trade window, which would put the mirror greyed out (signalling it would be consumed), alongside the newly mirrored item. Then the mirror would only complete if the trade is accepted, which guarantees the person offering a mirror service also gets their 30 div fee.
GGG easily have the power to prevent these types of scams, and are willfully negligent in their refusal to do so. Disgusting.
Oh absolutely +1 on that. There clearly should be some trade inferface for Mirror Services. Theres no way, with the current support we have and rampant scamming that I would give my Mirror first.
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Posted byOinkaments#6390on Feb 22, 2025, 12:21:27 PM
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This is exactly why we need an auction house. Auction houses would prevent most scams.
The fact that mirror scams are even happening in POE2 is also a failure. You could program the trade window to allow a player to mirror an item in the trade window, which would put the mirror greyed out (signalling it would be consumed), alongside the newly mirrored item. Then the mirror would only complete if the trade is accepted, which guarantees the person offering a mirror service also gets their 30 div fee.
GGG easily have the power to prevent these types of scams, and are willfully negligent in their refusal to do so. Disgusting.
As a console player that in PoE1 has (the only auction house they are likely to implement) the trade board, that it is also far far from perfect. Used in conjunction with the website an experienced player can pretty much protect themselves. That being said everyone makes mistakes, today in PoE1 event I nuked my main skill gem at the old ascendancy divine font (that had 2 uses due to a dark shrine buff) and instead of level 18 gem being upgraded with +9% quality and +15 million experience (what I intend to do) I end up with a useless alternate gem and had to buy a brand new level 1 gem of my main skill.
(ALL typos lack of caps, punctuation and general errors are copyright Timbo Industries - Laziness Division) Last edited by Timbo Zero#8289 on Feb 22, 2025, 12:34:47 PM
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Posted byTimbo Zero#8289on Feb 22, 2025, 12:31:51 PM
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As a console player that in PoE1 has (the only auction house they are likely to implement) the trade board, that it is also far far from perfect. Used in conjunction with the website an experienced player can pretty much protect themselves. That being said everyone makes mistakes, today in PoE1 event I nuked my main skill gem at the old ascendancy divine font (that had 2 uses due to a dark shrine buff) and instead of level 18 gem being upgraded with +9% quality and +15 million experience (what I intend to do) I end up with a useless alternate gem and had to buy a brand new level 1 gem of my main skill.
Agreed, but I think they've already given themselves the "option" to do better in POE2.
Now in POE2 we can at least list our items for sale directly from our stash tabs, in the game. We don't have to post code on the forums to sell our items anymore.
That in theory gives them the opportunity to implement a WOW mail-type system, where they would keep the current website for searching trades, but would add an option to the website to buy the item directly. The purchase would then be completed automatically, even if you are offline, and currency would be withdrawn from your currency tab, and the item would be mailed to you in your inbox.
I believe this is their plan, but they are hoping players will "accept" the current trade system. We just need to keep badgering them and complaining about it.
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Posted by92ranger#4205on Feb 22, 2025, 12:42:56 PM
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As a console player that in PoE1 has (the only auction house they are likely to implement) the trade board, that it is also far far from perfect. Used in conjunction with the website an experienced player can pretty much protect themselves. That being said everyone makes mistakes, today in PoE1 event I nuked my main skill gem at the old ascendancy divine font (that had 2 uses due to a dark shrine buff) and instead of level 18 gem being upgraded with +9% quality and +15 million experience (what I intend to do) I end up with a useless alternate gem and had to buy a brand new level 1 gem of my main skill.
Agreed, but I think they've already given themselves the "option" to do better in POE2.
Now in POE2 we can at least list our items for sale directly from our stash tabs, in the game. We don't have to post code on the forums to sell our items anymore.
That in theory gives them the opportunity to implement a WOW mail-type system, where they would keep the current website for searching trades, but would add an option to the website to buy the item directly. The purchase would then be completed automatically, even if you are offline, and currency would be withdrawn from your currency tab, and the item would be mailed to you in your inbox.
I believe this is their plan, but they are hoping players will "accept" the current trade system. We just need to keep badgering them and complaining about it.
On PS4 the stash tabs work exactly the same, the difference is that when you post the item instead of going to some internet website it goes into the "Trade Board" which is an actual AH style setup where you can directly purchase items for currency and you receive the item instantly and the seller receives the currency.
The PS4 Trade Board is so far superior to this current website nonsense where you have to leave the game it is laughable. There is no possibility of price-fixing or bait-and-switch scams in the Trade Board system. The only reason to keep the current system is to SUPPORT the scammers.
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Posted byTessderosa#0452on Feb 22, 2025, 12:48:26 PM
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GGG has made it obvious that they support scammers, the RMT community, and exploiters. It generates money for them.
In the long term it'll just destroy the reputation they built up over the last decade, but oh well...
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Posted byFruitLord#0833on Feb 22, 2025, 1:54:37 PM
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As a console player that in PoE1 has (the only auction house they are likely to implement) the trade board, that it is also far far from perfect. Used in conjunction with the website an experienced player can pretty much protect themselves. That being said everyone makes mistakes, today in PoE1 event I nuked my main skill gem at the old ascendancy divine font (that had 2 uses due to a dark shrine buff) and instead of level 18 gem being upgraded with +9% quality and +15 million experience (what I intend to do) I end up with a useless alternate gem and had to buy a brand new level 1 gem of my main skill.
Agreed, but I think they've already given themselves the "option" to do better in POE2.
Now in POE2 we can at least list our items for sale directly from our stash tabs, in the game. We don't have to post code on the forums to sell our items anymore.
That in theory gives them the opportunity to implement a WOW mail-type system, where they would keep the current website for searching trades, but would add an option to the website to buy the item directly. The purchase would then be completed automatically, even if you are offline, and currency would be withdrawn from your currency tab, and the item would be mailed to you in your inbox.
I believe this is their plan, but they are hoping players will "accept" the current trade system. We just need to keep badgering them and complaining about it.
PoE1 PAC players have been asking for the trade board for years, and I can see why it wasn’t really viable in poe1 (and Chris Wilson hated it but it was a necessary evil for console).
With PoE2, I can see no valid reason to not have trade board on top,of the website and exchange on all platforms whatsoever. It’s not going to be th ‘auction house’ players unfamiliar with Poe are asking for but it will help the game out.
Buyouts on the website will never, and correctly so, happen. The trading bots operate off the website and this would just make them way worse. Imagine listing an item by mistake as 19ex instead of 19 div and a bit instantly (milliseconds) buys it before you can correct the mistake.
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Posted byTimbo Zero#8289on Feb 22, 2025, 11:54:46 PM
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