How to Fix Movespeed on Boots

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 wrote:

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Nah. Some characters should be able to move more quickly than others. Pathfinders should be generally faster than Titans.

This is already addressed in the passive tree though, ranger has quite a few move speed nodes in the passive tree that would be difficult and not worth it for Warrior starters to pick up.

Removing move speed entirely and buffing base speed is no different to adding it as an implicit.

The other option is to go half way, buff base move speed by 20% and have a max 15-20% roll on boots.

+1 to that last part especially. I think most people would be fine with boots being the only speed item if it wasn't as directly impactful. If boots provides a smaller share of a player's total speed then there would be no issue.

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Cyriac_Darakus#1022 wrote:

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Nah. Some characters should be able to move more quickly than others. Pathfinders should be generally faster than Titans.

This is already addressed in the passive tree though, ranger has quite a few move speed nodes in the passive tree that would be difficult and not worth it for Warrior starters to pick up.

Removing move speed entirely and buffing base speed is no different to adding it as an implicit.

The other option is to go half way, buff base move speed by 20% and have a max 15-20% roll on boots.

I do not want a flat move speed buff, actually. Removing penalty from armor would be sufficient. Implicits with more move speed mods through hybrid mods would work nicely IMO because part of it is also the feeling of getting stronger as you progress, and higher move speed becomes more necessary just mechanically. They could even include move speed as a campaign quest reward, something you can swap at will for a small cost, like those vials from act 3 (which IIRC don't have means to choose a diff reward atm but you get the idea). Heck, why not an amulet with move speed implicit, too? With implicits on boots, more available mods, more ways to get good MS, and tightening up disparities between lowest move speed and highest move speed on boots should help to significantly improve boot gearing and move speed pain points.

Bumpo the Clown desires better handling of move speed

No movespeed boots are dead on arrival whatever the other mods are.

No exceptions

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_rt_#4636 wrote:

5) Keep as is, but bump dodge roll for all classes to make up for some mobs/attacks, then slightly rebalance a few things. This way, movespeed becomes desirable and QoL, but not a necessity (which is its current state)

This is my preference, though I maintain that you could approach fixing it from the angle of the problematic attacks rather than the dodge roll. I've managed to learn the timing and tells on most boss attacks well enough to dodge them without any MS, but there are absolutely a few that you have to anticipate before the tell because rolling is the only way to interrupt an attack, but the incoming attack starts just before you'd finish your first roll and it's centered on you. Rolling again won't get you far enough without MS in those cases (but if you had the MS you'd have had time to finish the initial swing and start walking). There are also a few that seem just a bit too tight on 0 MS even if there's plenty of time to react.

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The problem with removing MS entirely (at least as a boot mod) is that the entire game's balance would go out of whack. It kinda expects you to have a 25/30% mod by tier 15 maps. The problem with MS is how restrictive it is to get it. Add implicits (maybe starting at ilvl 20/act 2 base types), nerf pure MS mods, remove movespeed loss from armor, add hybrid movespeed mods for life/mana/defense. That should make it significantly less painful to try upgrading your boots and also make it far less painful to make a choice for less movespeed.

And for the record, I know it's been recommended, but I don't think runes are a good idea. PoE2 is clearly designed with a speed cap in mind, so simply smoothing out access to move speed with hybrid mods and boot implicits would be the ideal approach.

If they're going for souls-like mechanics like the dodge roll, why not just give us a sprint button and stamina bar and have the speed increase as we progress the campaign