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CassiusK#0297 wrote:

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ShoninyasTube#1197 wrote:

to be honest right now i dont trust these waystone extra dropchances at all.

i was running plenty 400%+ maps and didnt find any waystones, killing all mobs and bosses, and also opend all vase and other clickable/destroyable stuff (which brought me a lot in poe1).

i have right now the feeling i get the same amount of maps running just plain wait maps non juiced than full yellow (alch +2 ex) maps with 4 towers with extra waystone drop, intimitdate, deli, boss, corrupt...

thats so wierd.

and the thing is im playing bloodmage ssf, so im ultra squichy glas cannon, dying on my own. making the map more dangerouse result in dying often so yeah i probably have to wait for some patches before i can continue playing ;(

It's not your fault, its a flawed design. You are wasting your time trying to fix it. How many games did you play where you weren't able to PLAY just because you didn't manage correctly all of these things? (passive tree, juiced waystones...)? You know the answer: ZERO.

So let's take a look at the five states of grief:

1) Denial: "It's just a phase, they will drop"
2) Anger: "WTF, why I can't get enough waystones in this f*** game"
3) Bargain: "Ok, maybe It's just my fault, I'll try to fix it" <-- you are here

Just tump to the Depression phase (4) so you can reach the last one: the Acceptance (5) that the endgame is extremely unbalanced and flawed in terms of playability. Then you will move to other games meanwhile this is fixed.

I did it and, though I still came here daily to see if GGG say something new, I'm happily playing PoE1 and investing my time in more productive task. It isn't a problem, since I'll play later when the game is more polished

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

The only people I've seen complaining about sustain are those on the forums. Everyone in my guild and friends list are having zero problems. All of us are doing basically the same thing (some prefer to use deli + vaal instead of just relying on map bosses, some are using breach to get more mobs to kill, etc). But we're all doing the same basic thing, high waystone drop chance on quality map nodes.

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

And this become the only way to play the game?

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

The only people I've seen complaining about sustain are those on the forums. Everyone in my guild and friends list are having zero problems. All of us are doing basically the same thing (some prefer to use deli + vaal instead of just relying on map bosses, some are using breach to get more mobs to kill, etc). But we're all doing the same basic thing, high waystone drop chance on quality map nodes.

And this become the only way to play the game? Just because this is how it worked in Poe1 does not make this correct. Also, you fail to realize 300%+ multipliers is a ridiculous idea of "high", and by no means a guarantee and the low tier maps continue to drop, meaning this is more lottery than any skill.

Why not admit that people like you stand to lose since you presumably have too many waystones to sell?

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

The only people I've seen complaining about sustain are those on the forums. Everyone in my guild and friends list are having zero problems. All of us are doing basically the same thing (some prefer to use deli + vaal instead of just relying on map bosses, some are using breach to get more mobs to kill, etc). But we're all doing the same basic thing, high waystone drop chance on quality map nodes.

And this become the only way to play the game? Just because this is how it worked in Poe1 does not make this correct. Also, you fail to realize 300%+ multipliers is a ridiculous idea of "high", and by no means a guarantee and the low tier maps continue to drop, meaning this is more lottery than any skill.

Why not admit that people like you stand to lose since you presumably have too many waystones to sell?

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CassiusK#0297 wrote:

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

The only people I've seen complaining about sustain are those on the forums. Everyone in my guild and friends list are having zero problems. All of us are doing basically the same thing (some prefer to use deli + vaal instead of just relying on map bosses, some are using breach to get more mobs to kill, etc). But we're all doing the same basic thing, high waystone drop chance on quality map nodes.

And this become the only way to play the game? Just because this is how it worked in Poe1 does not make this correct. Also, you fail to realize 300%+ multipliers is a ridiculous idea of "high", and by no means a guarantee and the low tier maps continue to drop, meaning this is more lottery than any skill.

Why not admit that people like you stand to lose since you presumably have too many waystones to sell?

Sadly, this isn't how it worked in PoE1. I PoE1 I have 2 full tabs of maps and it's impossible for me to get rid of all my T16 stones. Here, in PoE2 is quite the opposite.

Just ignore these people that is trying to convice you that you are just a bad player, instead of admitting that we are in a EA that must be yet improved

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

Still waiting for you to go over to POE1, remove ALL of your atlas points and then run all of your T16 maps white and let us know how well you sustained.

How it works in POE2 is exactly the same as POE1. You are just used to POE1 and by habit do what needs to be done to sustain.

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Scarletsword#4354 wrote:

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

And this become the only way to play the game?

It isn't the only way to play the game. You can juice your maps and focus on loot in different ways but why should someone be rewarded for skipping mechanics or refusing to learn the basics?

Wouldn't you want to increase the amount of global loot and exp you get from your maps?

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CassiusK#0297 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

Still waiting for you to go over to POE1, remove ALL of your atlas points and then run all of your T16 maps white and let us know how well you sustained.

How it works in POE2 is exactly the same as POE1. You are just used to POE1 and by habit do what needs to be done to sustain.

I juiced every map in PoE2 as I do in PoE1. And yet, I didn't get drop. Instead, in PoE1, I'm not only plenty of maps but I also have extra options for playing them with Kirac. In PoE2 this is not the case.

Seriously, this is the last time I'm going to reply you because you are twisting every message people is posting here (OP is talking about 300% WS, I've told about 600%... and you are saying tht we are playing white maps and 0 points in atlas??). Feel free to answer this post or any other but I'll ignore it.

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

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Scarletsword#4354 wrote:

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Arkansaw#6164 wrote:

And this become the only way to play the game?

It isn't the only way to play the game. You can juice your maps and focus on loot in different ways but why should someone be rewarded for skipping mechanics or refusing to learn the basics?

Wouldn't you want to increase the amount of global loot and exp you get from your maps?

The game rewarded me with T4 even T2 maps after beating T8, this is happening regardless of waystone drop chance so why would you defend a broken mechanic? Just because it "worked" for you?

I already got way too much exp running these low tier maps the game keeps rewarding me with, instead of the ones needed to advance endgame quest. If the game objective is "juice maps" for 300/500/1000 that why is that not the quest?