POE2 Overheats my CPU to 100c and PC force shutdown

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XeonPOE#7768 wrote:
... or reducing graphics quality...


other way around, CPU works harder when game renders fast, reducing quality means more FPS means more load on the CPU

which is why locking the game at lower FPS works as a workaround, less FPS means CPU doesnt get utilized as hard
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vio#1992 wrote:

i don't think that lowering the voltage of the cpu helps, i think it would rather damage the cpu.

the power the cpu draws is given and the product of the voltage and current flowing into the cpu.
if you lower the voltage, the cpu has to draw more current to keep the power output.

problem is, the current is what heats up the cirquits, not the voltage.

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the only solution (beside improved cooling) is to lower the load on the cpu



not how CPUs work

to simplify it higher voltage will increase power draw not lower it, lower voltage will mean lower wattage means lower temperature BUT also lower stability of the processor

which means the ideal state is to have voltage at lowest possible level where CPU is stable, increasing the voltage makes the CPU more stable and able to reach higher clocks but the increase has severe diminishing returns where upping the voltage results in tiny frequency gain but at huge power / thermal cost and is not infinite, there is a point where upping the voltage will decrease stability too and more voltage means faster degradation of the silicone

problem with this is that Motherboard manufacturers wanting to one-up the competition wrote the automatic systems handling the PBO to simply shove as much voltage into the chip as possible and allowed by the cooling of the system ... TOO much as it turned out which led to general advice of anyone running 5000 and above series chips to undervolt and manually lock the voltage regulation for the CPU to prevent exactly these "my chip is running constantly 90c+ help" problems

would have to check but if i remember correctly the auto PBO was shoving almost 1.4V (which was above maximum recommended by AMD ...) into my CPU whereas manually locked it just purrs like a kitten on 1.1 and unlike normal 5800x the X3D cant be manually oveclocked anyway so its simply best to lock it down and not deal with unnecessary thermals

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Asghaad#3967 wrote:

to simplify it higher voltage will increase power draw not lower it, lower voltage will mean lower wattage means lower temperature BUT also lower stability of the processor


had a gpu which has been overclocked by the manufacturer once, it slowly fried cause the company set the voltage too low and the resulting current overheated the cirquits.

i'm no expert and i'm not up to date with the newest overclocking tech but years ago the power a chip draws from the power supply was defined by the frequency you set on that chip on the bios directly or with tools on your other chips on the motherboard.
because you increased the power needed you needed to also increase the voltage so that the chip doesn't consume too much current.

there may be new tech where you increase the voltage and it automatically increases the chips frequency but i'm not aware of that, will look it up.
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ya I also have a i9 24 core CPU liquid cooled. and a 4080 liquid cooled, and this game is the only game I play that try's to fry my pc. I hope they fix this soon. PS I even change the thermal to make sure that was not the problem. problem isn't on my computer it's with the game .
You have a clogged water loop, you will get the exact same temps running cinebench.

Pure cooling issue.
Same, i7-12700kf. I hear it spin up really fast when loading maps. Noctua NH-D15 cooler.
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This solution worked perfectly, my CPU was literally overheating with the game's default settings. I had done undervolting, but it affected other games, which really annoyed me. It doesn't seem like a hardware issue; this game shouldn't require water cooling or any solution other than stock. Even in The Witcher or Cyberpunk, Marvel Rivals(high CPU usage), Fortnite(high CPU usage), R6(high CPU usage), this wasn't happening. I even replaced the thermal paste, and the processor was still overheating.

With the mentioned settings, CPU temperature has reduced quite a bit(it increases during the loading screen, which I find strange). Before, it was between 92-100°C(this is insane!), now 75-88°C.

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Asghaad#3967 wrote:
no its YOU problem ... or problem with your hardware

sure software can load that hardware, guess what it cant load more than 100% of its capability, that you never got to that point doesnt mean the software is "bad" on the contrary if software can use 100% of your hardware capability that is actually what you should WANT ...

the issue here is that your hardware somewhere has imballance

your cooling isnt obviously sufficient for the 100% of the capability of your hardware, whether it is that your cooler is not that good (im on water is so broad ... do you have one 120mm rad AIO or do you have open loop ... ) or that your tuning is shoving way too much power in the chip (which could be fault of Motheboard and BIOS, especially ASUS was prone to shoving way WAY too much voltage in 5000 series chips on auto settings)


to give you frame of reference -

i have 5800X3D (hottest 5000 series BY FAR) running under custom single loop (GPU+ CPU both on single loop) watercooling with twin radiators (420mm slim + 280mm standard)and combined 10x140mm fans and D5 pump all ran at +-40% RPM

my CPU was hitting 90 degrees under default settings (ASUS board) even with that cooling under load because base ASUS tuning for the chip was shoving insanely high voltage because it could... i had to go into BIOS and lock the voltage which turned that furnace of CPU into a purring kitten breezing through even heaviest load at +- 60 degrees.

AMD chips tend to be like that these days, you cant just shove some "auto" OC into them and expect them to behave, if you overdo it they will overheat.


as for PoE2 i noticed no abnormal CPU behavior nor any overheating on my system despite using FSR upscaling to hit 120+ fps instead of native resolution that would have the game GPU bound for me


stop shitposting with " its a you problem" thousands of players have this issues with pc crashes, freezes and pc reboot.. also some pc magazines write about it. If no other game crashes my PC and causes problems but only PoE 2, then the decision is easy. And it's not ME who wants to win customers and make money, but GGG. And if they do everything but no performance improvements etc. then it's their own bad luck
Just happened to me. My computer had never turned itself off even in hottest summer days. This game is ill-optimized right now. Even on the main menu, I was worried that it would start hovering xD PoE 1 was like this at launch as well and I played it years later. I better shelf this one until release, as well, I guess.
It happened to me last night.
I had two monitors up. Running a video on the other.
I was using Windowed Fullscreen mode @ 4k.
VSync enabled.
Framerate capped at 60 fore/30 background.
Settings on low for the most part.
FSR3 performance mode enabled.
Nvidia Reflex on.

Now bear in mind my cpu is only an i7-12700k @ 5ghz. However I use it at 100% load fairly often, for sometimes hours at a time, as I work in game dev with Unreal Engine and compiling shaders uses all cores to max. Compiling code is also cpu dependent but I have sat compiling full bore and played Hearthstone on the side, which isn't exactly CPU friendly when loading things.

I'm watercooled with a corsair h150i Elite Capellix i-Cue setup. It's installed properly and I've had 30 years experience building computers to understand the parts.

My crash was a pure bluescreen, so hardware error. I didn't go check the dump but I knew it would over-heating in this case, rather than some uncaught exception from the code. But that can happen from time to time.

Running at full load on the CPU isn't the real problem, but the cooling being capable. As I am sure my cooling is sufficient then I think just improper multi-tasking got me this time. If the temps went too high it had to step down, then perhaps it caused something to bork out. Or it could be my temps as I wasn't even watching them.
I'll be watching my temps like a hawk tonight.

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