POE 2 Complete PC Freeze while loading screen

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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

first of all i am not talking about affinity i am talking about setting a priority to realtime for path of exile. you need to learn to read.

secondly that thread you posted is like from 2010 which is outdated af and is not about setting priority but disabling cores in affinity which i am again not talking about.

ive been working repairing pcs for more than 20 years now, if you believe to know more than me than just leave it on realtime and find out by yourself.

but yeah a 1000000% it can cause damages or issues. by setting it to realtime you are causing a starvation of the system resources. you are monopolizing the CPU. this will prevent other essential tasks like cooling disk graphics card and or input/output to stop working properly because of lack of resources.

let's not even get started about all the data corruption possibilities system freezes ssd fries or the risk of simply overheating because you decidated 99% of system resources to poe.

i could continue forever. basically either you believe the random chatter who says it's fine to use or you trust someone who has been working in that department and has repaired thousands of computers at this point because people think it is fine to do. IT IS NOT.



Setting ot to realtime will not do any of that. It will just chug all the cpu time until drivers crash. Cpu cooling is still at the kernel level which is even still above a real-time cpu priority.

"I have been repairing pcs" is also a wild claim to prove your correctness. Can you show how you've reached the conclusion of hardware damage being caused by real time OS Prioritization?

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I have been going through all the settings from my game, and for me, what stopped the crashing of the game was to turn off the nvidia reflex. I tried to reduce shader cache from nvidia control panel, taking out 2 cores, lowering the framerate, and other workarounds that just didn't help the issue. After removing the nvidia reflex, I was able to not crash anymore. I even tested it on maps that people crashed a lot (even me everytime), especially the bloodwood and blooming field maps, and it seemed to work for me. Hopefully this will help some people since this is just another workaround ina sense.

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Joe the "tourist", Joe the "in industry from 1980's", now Joe the "repairman".

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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

but yeah a 1000000% it can cause damages or issues. by setting it to realtime you are causing a starvation of the system resources. you are monopolizing the CPU. this will prevent other essential tasks like cooling disk graphics card and or input/output to stop working properly because of lack of resources.

let's not even get started about all the data corruption possibilities system freezes ssd fries or the risk of simply overheating because you decidated 99% of system resources to poe.

i could continue forever. basically either you believe the random chatter who says it's fine to use or you trust someone who has been working in that department and has repaired thousands of computers at this point because people think it is fine to do. IT IS NOT.


How many PCs with damaged parts were in your service because of setting user mode program to Real Time?

PS Joe the "repairman" doesn't know who controls the fan speed and thinks it's under OS management?
Last edited by cursorTarget#1174 on Dec 26, 2024, 1:19:00 PM
Nvidia reflex is not the root cause. I had it off since day 1 and am locking up.
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Nobsi#4273 wrote:
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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

first of all i am not talking about affinity i am talking about setting a priority to realtime for path of exile. you need to learn to read.

secondly that thread you posted is like from 2010 which is outdated af and is not about setting priority but disabling cores in affinity which i am again not talking about.

ive been working repairing pcs for more than 20 years now, if you believe to know more than me than just leave it on realtime and find out by yourself.

but yeah a 1000000% it can cause damages or issues. by setting it to realtime you are causing a starvation of the system resources. you are monopolizing the CPU. this will prevent other essential tasks like cooling disk graphics card and or input/output to stop working properly because of lack of resources.

let's not even get started about all the data corruption possibilities system freezes ssd fries or the risk of simply overheating because you decidated 99% of system resources to poe.

i could continue forever. basically either you believe the random chatter who says it's fine to use or you trust someone who has been working in that department and has repaired thousands of computers at this point because people think it is fine to do. IT IS NOT.



Setting ot to realtime will not do any of that. It will just chug all the cpu time until drivers crash. Cpu cooling is still at the kernel level which is even still above a real-time cpu priority.

"I have been repairing pcs" is also a wild claim to prove your correctness. Can you show how you've reached the conclusion of hardware damage being caused by real time OS Prioritization?



don't believe me? fine. use your realtime priority. your pc not mine. and small fact on the side: you can just type this question into chat gpt or you can ask any IT guy that knows his stuff and you will get the same answer that i just gave you.
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Joe the "tourist", Joe the "in industry from 1980's", now Joe the "repairman".

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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

but yeah a 1000000% it can cause damages or issues. by setting it to realtime you are causing a starvation of the system resources. you are monopolizing the CPU. this will prevent other essential tasks like cooling disk graphics card and or input/output to stop working properly because of lack of resources.

let's not even get started about all the data corruption possibilities system freezes ssd fries or the risk of simply overheating because you decidated 99% of system resources to poe.

i could continue forever. basically either you believe the random chatter who says it's fine to use or you trust someone who has been working in that department and has repaired thousands of computers at this point because people think it is fine to do. IT IS NOT.


How many PCs with damaged parts were in your service because of setting user mode program to Real Time?

PS Joe the "repairman" doesn't know who controls the fan speed and thinks it's under OS management?


same for you. use your realtime at the end of the day it's your pc suffering not mine. or just type this same topic into chat gpt or ask any it guy that knows his stuff and you will get the same answer i gave you.
Tried all the fixes. Game still crashes :(
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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

same for you. use your realtime at the end of the day it's your pc suffering not mine. or just type this same topic into chat gpt or ask any it guy that knows his stuff and you will get the same answer i gave you.

Okay, I am IT guy. Should I ask myself? The question is pretty simple - how many machines with damaged parts were in your service because the user mode application was running at Real Time priority. And the second question. Do you know which exactly part of the system controls the fan speed (and why such design decision was made by the manufacturers)?
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NufPoD#2344 wrote:
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Joe the "tourist", Joe the "in industry from 1980's", now Joe the "repairman".

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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

but yeah a 1000000% it can cause damages or issues. by setting it to realtime you are causing a starvation of the system resources. you are monopolizing the CPU. this will prevent other essential tasks like cooling disk graphics card and or input/output to stop working properly because of lack of resources.

let's not even get started about all the data corruption possibilities system freezes ssd fries or the risk of simply overheating because you decidated 99% of system resources to poe.

i could continue forever. basically either you believe the random chatter who says it's fine to use or you trust someone who has been working in that department and has repaired thousands of computers at this point because people think it is fine to do. IT IS NOT.


How many PCs with damaged parts were in your service because of setting user mode program to Real Time?

PS Joe the "repairman" doesn't know who controls the fan speed and thinks it's under OS management?


same for you. use your realtime at the end of the day it's your pc suffering not mine. or just type this same topic into chat gpt or ask any it guy that knows his stuff and you will get the same answer i gave you.


Ok mr helpdesk
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NufPoD#2344 wrote:

same for you. use your realtime at the end of the day it's your pc suffering not mine. or just type this same topic into chat gpt or ask any it guy that knows his stuff and you will get the same answer i gave you.

Okay, I am IT guy. Should I ask myself? The question is pretty simple - how many machines with damaged parts were in your service because the user mode application was running at Real Time priority. And the second question. Do you know which exactly part of the system controls the fan speed (and why such design decision was made by the manufacturers)?


how many? probably a couple hundred i didn't count them i can't give a precise number.

how did i know? asking the client when and how the problem started happening.

what kinda problems ? everything from computers freezing, crashing, blue screen, keyboard and mouse stopped working or simply just critical system functions that stopped working there is many many more.

why does this happen? because by setting for example path of exile priority to realtime you are essentially telling that program to take complete control over your CPU that's why a bunch of other stuff "CAN" give you problems.

you didn't get these problems ever? LUCKY YOU!

that doesn't mean that it hasn't yeeted a good amount of computers

again, don't believe me? FINE! use it. not my problem. just warning people that it " CAN " cause trouble. does it happen to everyone? no. still take this realtime priority thing with caution.

why would i lie about something as simple as this. lmao makes 0 sense i am simply just warning people that leaving your game for hours on realtime priority can cause issues i have seen it a lot with my own eyes from my clients.

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