and the game will start to flourish instead of dying

Reasoning

Slowly POE! is leaving - leaving it.

Look at the 1,2,3,4 levels of maps filled with monsters from acts.
Look what they did with gem they just turned the mechanics of the game inside out which is easier to do than developing new skils or making new MTXs.
So the game is coming to an end.

In order to make a new wave of interest in the game it is necessary to make changes of a different nature for example

Tie together VAAL system and Cluster jewel system and Timeless jewel system - intertwine - oh then millions of new variations will appear and the game will start to flourish instead of dying.
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a reply post of incoherent ramblings
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When fallacious arguments aren't convincing comes the biased moderation.
It's every single post by this guy, some rambling stuff. I would say its AI but it is so poorly written that even AI from 10 years ago wouldn't write this.
Last edited by Satan on Feb 10, 1692, 10:00:00 PM
OP is a 75 year old non-English person who enjoys ARPGs. While I disagree with their suggestions and some of it is pretty wild you don't have to belittle them for that. They are just trying to put their thoughts out there
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Sep 24, 2024, 10:47:49 AM
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ArtCrusade wrote:
OP is a 75 year old non-English person who enjoys ARPGs. While I disagree with their suggestions and some of it is pretty wild you don't have to belittle them for that. They are just trying to put their thoughts out there


Shouldn't really matter how old they are, We should show respect to everyone here.

This forum has had way too much of this behavior recently, some might say its a bunch of "hyperbole" as it almost none of these posts attempt to discuss rather discredit and shut-down OPs.

Support could definitely do something about it but are allowing it to become so pervasive that others are picking up these non-ideal behaviors and utilizing them in new threads and the more people get away with it the worse it will become.

This makes people afraid to give their feedback even modifies peoples feedback so they can avoid needless conflict or worse they leave here and never return because it is so inhospitable to anyone who has any less than a perfect knowledge of every element of the game.

Be nice exiles, If you want information ask people directly don't come to your own conclusions because personal projections rarely line up with someone else's thought process and life experience.
Innocence forgives you
Last edited by SilentSymphony#3358 on Sep 24, 2024, 11:21:50 AM
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SilentSymphony wrote:
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ArtCrusade wrote:
OP is a 75 year old non-English person who enjoys ARPGs. While I disagree with their suggestions and some of it is pretty wild you don't have to belittle them for that. They are just trying to put their thoughts out there


Shouldn't really matter how old they are, We should show respect to everyone here.

This forum has had way too much of this behavior recently, some might say its a bunch of "hyperbole" as it almost none of these posts attempt to discuss rather discredit and shut-down OPs.

Support could definitely do something about it but are allowing it to become so pervasive that others are picking up these non-ideal behaviors and utilizing them in new threads and the more people get away with it the worse it will become.

This makes people afraid to give their feedback even modifies peoples feedback so they can avoid needless conflict or worse they leave here and never return because it is so inhospitable to anyone who has any less than a perfect knowledge of every element of the game.


Honestly, for all the "censorship" complaints we see on the forums it's pretty timid in terms of actual GGG interference into forum life.

Welp, back to the actual topic. Here's what I think OP tries to say:

1) game is dying
2) some examples from OP's perspective why it's dying
3) to prevent the game from dying, OP thinks the "vaal system", clusters and timeless jewels need to be tied together mechanically

Now, I have no idea what they refer to with the vaal system. Could be gems, could be vaal orbs, I dunno. They also don't say how that should happen.

I already disagree with the premise... the game isn't dying, and it won't anytime soon
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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ArtCrusade wrote:
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SilentSymphony wrote:
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ArtCrusade wrote:
OP is a 75 year old non-English person who enjoys ARPGs. While I disagree with their suggestions and some of it is pretty wild you don't have to belittle them for that. They are just trying to put their thoughts out there


Shouldn't really matter how old they are, We should show respect to everyone here.

This forum has had way too much of this behavior recently, some might say its a bunch of "hyperbole" as it almost none of these posts attempt to discuss rather discredit and shut-down OPs.

Support could definitely do something about it but are allowing it to become so pervasive that others are picking up these non-ideal behaviors and utilizing them in new threads and the more people get away with it the worse it will become.

This makes people afraid to give their feedback even modifies peoples feedback so they can avoid needless conflict or worse they leave here and never return because it is so inhospitable to anyone who has any less than a perfect knowledge of every element of the game.


Honestly, for all the "censorship" complaints we see on the forums it's pretty timid in terms of actual GGG interference into forum life.

Welp, back to the actual topic. Here's what I think OP tries to say:

1) game is dying
2) some examples from OP's perspective why it's dying
3) to prevent the game from dying, OP thinks the "vaal system", clusters and timeless jewels need to be tied together mechanically

Now, I have no idea what they refer to with the vaal system. Could be gems, could be vaal orbs, I dunno. They also don't say how that should happen.

I already disagree with the premise... the game isn't dying, and it won't anytime soon


Well disagree is one thing, Telling them they're wrong is another though im not saying you are but some may be and often do in other threads without gleaning important context and information.

I don't really know what the OP is getting at here but why don't we try something new?

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Staglaitor_ wrote:
Reasoning

Slowly POE! is leaving - leaving it.

Look at the 1,2,3,4 levels of maps filled with monsters from acts.
Look what they did with gem they just turned the mechanics of the game inside out which is easier to do than developing new skils or making new MTXs.
So the game is coming to an end.

In order to make a new wave of interest in the game it is necessary to make changes of a different nature for example

Tie together VAAL system and Cluster jewel system and Timeless jewel system - intertwine - oh then millions of new variations will appear and the game will start to flourish instead of dying.
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Hey OP! Could you explain some more details about how these systems would work together to create the expanded path of exile you wish to see?

^It would be appreciated as your current idea is hard to understand.
Innocence forgives you
Last edited by SilentSymphony#3358 on Sep 24, 2024, 11:37:13 AM
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SilentSymphony wrote:
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ArtCrusade wrote:
OP is a 75 year old non-English person who enjoys ARPGs. While I disagree with their suggestions and some of it is pretty wild you don't have to belittle them for that. They are just trying to put their thoughts out there


Shouldn't really matter how old they are, We should show respect to everyone here.

This forum has had way too much of this behavior recently, some might say its a bunch of "hyperbole" as it almost none of these posts attempt to discuss rather discredit and shut-down OPs.

Support could definitely do something about it but are allowing it to become so pervasive that others are picking up these non-ideal behaviors and utilizing them in new threads and the more people get away with it the worse it will become.

This makes people afraid to give their feedback even modifies peoples feedback so they can avoid needless conflict or worse they leave here and never return because it is so inhospitable to anyone who has any less than a perfect knowledge of every element of the game.

Be nice exiles, If you want information ask people directly don't come to your own conclusions because personal projections rarely line up with someone else's thought process and life experience.


No one is disrespecting here, but using AI to translate instead of google translator and then coming with these incoherent posts because of it is what I'm criticizing.

Even mandarin translated to english doesn't create an incoherent phrase, it can lose a bit of meaning yes but nothing like this.
Last edited by Satan on Feb 10, 1692, 10:00:00 PM
Last edited by FearZGamer#6190 on Sep 24, 2024, 12:20:25 PM
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FearZGamer wrote:

No one is disrespecting here, but using AI to translate instead of google translator and then coming with these incoherent posts because of it is what I'm criticizing.

Even mandarin translated to english doesn't create an incoherent phrase, it can lose a bit of meaning yes but nothing like this.


A number of users in this forum use AI tools to proof their posts nowadays to ensure they won't be getting punished or ridiculed for just giving feedback.

Many of them gave up however as once people know you are doing that then that becomes the focus of discussion instead of what you are trying to discuss in the first place.

Innocence forgives you
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SilentSymphony wrote:
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This is a very - critically broad topic, so we will discuss it by next September
Let's take a small piece:

If the cluster jewel contains the Mender's Wellspring property, then in the timeless jewel all small nodes receive (like a tattoo) 25% of Mender's Wellspring

But this is a simple option - uncomplicated.
And what do you want from one person in 5 minutes if this work should be done by a studio within 3 months and for money.


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