BUFF VEILED ORB DROP RATE!!!

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shardklaw wrote:
Inb4 shills spam this thread with "the drop rate is fine".



...it really isn't. The Betrayal changes are bad.
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GamiPoE wrote:
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FearZGamer wrote:
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GamiPoE wrote:
I'm going insane i have ran 25 Masterminds without a SINGLE NOT A SINGLE Veiled orb drop. 30% drop chance my ass holy fuck. It is on my lootfilter i already checked and the area level is always 83.

Do something ggg is my account bugged or what???


Betrayal is bad now, not saying you are lying but 25 tries not dropping a single one is highly improbable. In 25 attempts with 30% its ~0.013% chance to have 0 drop.

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roundishcap wrote:
I can't remember but my personal worst drop rate was like 30 or 40 runs for an orb. then sometimes I get like 2 in a row. Ultra rare drops are stupid as hell. Just remove hinekora's lock and buff all rare currency rates like 150x what they are now so people can have fun smashing items instead of playing spreadsheet simulator.


Oh yeah true, make it so people drop 10 mirror by the end of act 10, make it so you drop stacks of 60 divines in T1 maps, totally agree.

Even better, just make it so when you create a new char in the league, you already have 100 mirrors in your inventory.



What should i say i can't believe it myself lol. Kept spamming it straight for 10h without a single orb. Guess ggg doesn't want me to craft. Anyway i rage quitted and selfscammed myself by buying orbs for 14d+ which isn't worth it.


Given that you just said you spent 10hrs farming and got 0, I would say that 14d for 1 is pretty worth it, no?
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+1

I hate what Betrayal has become. I used to enjoy just purifying breachstones for profit using It That Fled and making white socket items with Vorici, but GGG is now forcing me to fight Catarina for any semblance of value out of this league.

I don't want to fucking reset the board, GGG, but if you're going to make me do it, actually give me some incentive. This terrible drop rate of veiled orbs doesn't cut it.
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Piousqd wrote:
Given that you just said you spent 10hrs farming and got 0, I would say that 14d for 1 is pretty worth it, no?


You can easily make more than 14d in 10 hours doing literally anything else, and I don't just mean T17 maps. Literally Blight in regular maps pulls more value for time spent. Expedition and haggling with Tujen is even better.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

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Betrayal is still my go to when league starting cause of benchcrafts unlocks and good xp, but it feels so bad expecially early on to do 1,2,3,4,5...cata without drops.

If it drops, cool.
If it doesn't, you just wasted x time and got literally nothing in return.
Last edited by Satan on Feb 10, 1692, 10:00:00 PM
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Piousqd wrote:
Given that you just said you spent 10hrs farming and got 0, I would say that 14d for 1 is pretty worth it, no?


You can easily make more than 14d in 10 hours doing literally anything else, and I don't just mean T17 maps. Literally Blight in regular maps pulls more value for time spent. Expedition and haggling with Tujen is even better.



That was my point. OP says he "scammed himself" by paying 14d and it was not worth it, for an item that he has experienced first hand to be exceedingly rare/inconsistent. 14d to save yourself 10 hrs of game play is a steal.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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Piousqd wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Piousqd wrote:
Given that you just said you spent 10hrs farming and got 0, I would say that 14d for 1 is pretty worth it, no?


You can easily make more than 14d in 10 hours doing literally anything else, and I don't just mean T17 maps. Literally Blight in regular maps pulls more value for time spent. Expedition and haggling with Tujen is even better.



That was my point. OP says he "scammed himself" by paying 14d and it was not worth it, for an item that he has experienced first hand to be exceedingly rare/inconsistent. 14d to save yourself 10 hrs of game play is a steal.


Fair enough, I misunderstood that.
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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:
I miss Hillock crafting :(

I've noticed it's about 1 in 4 for veiled orbs, it goes pretty fast when you set your atlas up for it. I've found spamming t17-10's, "promoting-through-execution" then interrogating once they hit 3, while only worrying about Tora for Mastermind gets me a Catarina every 45 min.

Good chance of an orb (10+div profit), some Catarina veils to sell, and I can turbo xp some Enlightens/Awakened Multistrikes.


No shot you're getting 1/4 for orbs in a large sample size. I've gotten really lucky before but I've also went 35-40 runs without a single drop. no way an actual 1/4 is that unlucky several runs over a 2 league spread. Its probably closer to 1/10 over at least 10k or so runs.

2 in a row :D

I just take your RNG I guess
Mash the clean
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Lonnie455Rich wrote:
No shot you're getting 1/4 for orbs in a large sample size. I've gotten really lucky before but I've also went 35-40 runs without a single drop. no way an actual 1/4 is that unlucky several runs over a 2 league spread. Its probably closer to 1/10 over at least 10k or so runs.



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35 attempts is 0.00038%.
40 attempts is 0.000064%.

Don't hyperbole you doing 10 runs to 40 runs mate. I know i've been maybe 9 runs dry in a row too but dont add 30 more for dramatic effect.

And by the way its already defined probability, sample size doesnt matter, if its 30% is ~1/4 you get a drop. Either with a 100 tries sample or 10 milion tries sample.

Last edited by Satan on Feb 10, 1692, 10:00:00 PM
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