6000 hours of Melee Scientific Expert Tells You the Truth- Melee changes ACTUALLY 100% suck

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Baharoth15 wrote:

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Chickenwink wrote:

Feel free to post the POB with your calculations, I and several others, are happy to help.

If i ever feel like i want advice from a bunch of scrubs i might just do that, thanks.

You're calling for a debate calling others scrubs but you won't post a proper POB?

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

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Baharoth15 wrote:

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Chickenwink wrote:

Feel free to post the POB with your calculations, I and several others, are happy to help.

If i ever feel like i want advice from a bunch of scrubs i might just do that, thanks.

You're calling for a debate calling others scrubs but you won't post a proper POB?

Yea all I did was ask for the "calculations" that were made to turn a well over 5m dps build to somehow

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Baharoth15 wrote:

will end up with barely 5 mio dps, if that.

and

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Baharoth15 wrote:

My estimate POB actually comes out at 3 mio

So we are just losing tens of millions of dps at first, and then millions of dps again.


There must have been some massive mistakes along the way, or some hilarious conditions like swapping out a 2h for a 1h t10 phys rolled weapon. Luckily though, this is a public forum, so the community is definitely here to help, as it seems needed.

But sadly, never received such POB evidence. Just more " lol that build is 20 mirrors" answer and told to accept it.

"melee expert"

has one slayer that was from many leagues ago

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arkzabor1 wrote:

"melee expert"

has one slayer that was from many leagues ago

sorry but, your post suffers from lack of background knowledge. I know it's tempting to write something like this but most of us here know kiss and he's legit.

It would be better to just step by step counter his list of points he brought forward if you disagree - should be easy since it seems so obvious to everyone disagreeing with him.

Also interesting in this context:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3531964/page/1#p25358367
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3532184

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Antigegner wrote:

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arkzabor1 wrote:

"melee expert"

has one slayer that was from many leagues ago

sorry but, your post suffers from lack of background knowledge. I know it's tempting to write something like this but most of us here know kiss and he's legit.

It would be better to just step by step counter his list of points he brought forward if you disagree - should be easy since it seems so obvious to everyone disagreeing with him.

Also interesting in this context:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3531964/page/1#p25358367
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3532184

Yea, Kiss and Sidherath are few I know on the forums who out <3 me for melee.
I gave up on it eventually after I think Ultimatum.

We've had debates in the past. They know their stuff.
Like I mentioned in my post here. There's some bait and switch going on this patch.

Casting totem .6 sec
2 totems 1,2 sec
Time to kill minotaur 2 or less sec After starting to hit

So even with that akmost best case scénario and WE take skill buffed by double totem amount the no totem variant would have donne around 60% more dmg.

And that s without taking into account clearing the Map. That s how outrageousy Bad the take is.

Could also tell us how to get max block right now with a Shield and 5 passives, this IS for a friend.

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SerialF wrote:

Casting totem .6 sec
2 totems 1,2 sec
Time to kill minotaur 2 or less sec After starting to hit

So even with that akmost best case scénario and WE take skill buffed by double totem amount the no totem variant would have donne around 60% more dmg.

And that s without taking into account clearing the Map. That s how outrageousy Bad the take is.

Could also tell us how to get max block right now with a Shield and 5 passives, this IS for a friend.

Your logic doesn't work because in Path of Exile we're not just and only killing Minotaurs with my builds.

Although I said 6 in the first post - here you go. It is over the cap, so like 5.5.





https://pobb.in/terD5CLW6atz

Well you re using 3.25 tree so it s part of the buff , it s to the crédit of the update. And glad can get akmost 90% spell attack block with almost no investment and versatile combattant for almost all content besides very hard hitting stuff. (Lucky block as you are aware) It warrant a bit more than what you did to disregard glad

Well while mapping you barely drop any totems meaning any threshold you need is almost halved almost always, and most of the time casting 2 totems will be overkill. At minimum any threshold for mapping early on you have will be significantly cut. So unless you consider dmg for mapping is irrelevant, this is a huge boost early on.

I would say your biggest point is move speed attack speed which will slow things down, but if we consider leap slam attack one shot, this will be way easier. On top if that, WE re supposed to get a better animation time which again must be factored in especially in this scenario. No idea yet how much of a "more attack speed équivalent" it ll be.

My point is, for most people this is an insane buff in League start. T17 i have no idea. In bosses, we lose our totems, have to recast, no more vaal charge etc.


PS typing with auto correct in french on a stupide phone IS cancer

Btw coconut, that pob he posted was bens pob lol