Taking a break from POE1 again.

yea yea not an airport blablabla

at the very least i m going off more out of lack of interest now rather than due to rage.

in my last outburst uninstalled poe and havent touched it for sometime. affliction brought me back because of the ww ascendencies and the charms/tinctures.

why did i come back? well, it was free player power. i wanted to bring them back to STD.

unfortunately they all got poofed. tho i thoroughly enjoyed the additional power i had during the league.

once back on std, i had a huge amount of divines from affliction.

bought up some GG gear on std. tried playing around.

i did have a lot of fun with the additional power i got from having divines.

but after awhile all the magic wore off. i was back at where i left the game previous to affliction.

GGG definitely made a lot of changes that i loved. but i kinda felt sad. the entire purpose of me playing in affliction was NOT for wealth acquisition. it was for the sole purpose of POWER acquisition.

b-b-but exsea, wealth acquisition can translate to power acquisition! true. very true. but WW ascendancies and the charms pushed the amount of power even higher. there was more potential.

i am no fool. i was pretty sure that the ascendencies/charms were going away by the end of the league. but. but what if i m wrong? i HAD to play it. similar to how in crucible, many people thought the crucible trees would be poofed but they did not get poofed. what if, GGG decided to let us keep the ascendencies and charms? i would be kicking myself in STD for letting a huge source of player power just slip through my fingers.

also, free power could have pushed me to enjoy standard more. i m strong now, but with the new power i m MORE stronger!

alas that is not the case.

i am only stronger now because of the gear i got from my exploits.

then i started questioning myself again. why am i playing POE? didnt i ragequit last time? i remember how i was so pissed at POE i thought i would never ever touch it ever again. then i remembered, how hyped i was with the new ascendancies. it was the next crucible event. i had something that could significantly improve my standard game.

a reason to return.

i actually forgot that i hated how POE has become. i was having fun in affliction. i was thrilled with the idea of how powerful i would become once i got back to std. when they got poofed i still enjoyed POE as i still had the currency to buy up a ton of stuff i could never have dreamed of buying. but they were all copium. i still lost my ww ascendencies. i still lost those powers.

i actually still enjoyed playing the game for some time as i was still much stronger than before. but all of that was copium.

once the copium wore off. i just felt empty. next league even if ggg introduced a new player power, can i trust GGG to let me keep that power? no i can not. i cannot even expect it. apparently all these years with over 30 leagues of GGG allowing us to keep direct player power on gear GGG has decided that this is no longer the direction. sanctum and now affliction.

whats next?

i cant trust ggg with my time and effort. i am reminded how ggg doesnt "care" for standard.

the new t17 maps really are a huge step up. ggg wants players to have a stepping stone. ggg wants players to eventually do ubers.

thats a very different tune to how ubers used to be just aspirational content.

t17 maps are really a huge jump up. the t17 bosses are technically "ubers" too.

i was fine with ubers as ubers used to be aspirational. OPTIONAL.

i do acknowledge that POE has changed a lot for the better too. but its not enough. really not enough. and some things are just due to conflicts of philosophies. i prefer things this way, ggg prefer things another way.

my hopium tells me that GGG will actually make POE1 in to something a lot more to my taste. but the reality is, even if this would be true, how long would it take before that would happen?

most of their efforts are now on poe2. i am now even hyped for poe2. why am i even playing poe1 even?

on the forum i keep saying i m a standard player, everything i do is to enrich myself on std. why is this such a big deal? 4 years ago, poe2 was announced. i was told i could use my stuff in poe2.

truly poe would be my forever game. but poe2 is separate. my gear will become irrelevant.

poe1 is a 10 year old game. it has no real future anymore. not for me at least. in fact, its very bittersweet seeing the devs talk about their reasons of splitting poe 1 and 2. i resent GGG so much for the split but i really CAN understand the reason why they did it. they really dug their own pitfall with how they let the game grow in the way they did. theres no easy way to "fix" poe 1. 1 small tweak and a large minority will be upset. tweak it a different way another different large minority will be upset too.

how long will it be before poe1 melee would be "fixed"?

tbh whenever i play a new temp league, the leveling process constantly reminds me of poe2's socketing system. something poe1 players will not be able to enjoy. we WERE supposed to enjoy it. but we no longer are getting it. instead i m stuck in this 10 year old issue where i have to choose between having a gear with better stats or having the correct links/colours to use my main attack. an issue GGG knows, acknowledges and has already solved in poe2.

every new league i need to farm 3000 fusings so i can use 2x 6Ls. its part of my todo list. its not going away.

i had a goal of getting to 100. but for what? everything i earn and achieve in poe1 now feels hollow and meaningless.

poe2 looks so damn sweet. but beyond poe2. i m actually enjoying myself in LE right now. D4's new itemization looks interesting. still waiting for GD's next expansion.

there so much going on right now.

i am no longer upset. no more anger. no more rage. but in a way thats sad. it is said that apathy is worse than anger. when you're angry, it means you still care. i have reached apathy for poe1.

will i come back next temp league? maybe? who knows. but why should i come back? theres no telling if i get to keep my goodies at the end of the league. and even if i do, then what? poe1 is an old game with nothing significantly new. poe2 was the carrot on the stick for all my efforts in poe1.

i remember back when i rage quit. for weeks or even months. everytime after going home i had the thought of "when i get home i ll play POE" even tho i had "ragequit" from the game. the game was uninstalled and i really didnt want to touch poe. "i wanna get home to play POE" is so engraved into my mind, that even now sometimes it pops up in my mind.

i found it sad back then that i was quitting so bitterly.

now i find myself sad that i m quitting but without the spite. i havent been posting too much on the forums too. i even posted a huge ass post of suggestions. i dont know will ggg implement them or not. but it no longer matters to me.

unlike before this is not a ragequit. nor is this a declaration of "leaving POE forever". i find myself humbled and people actually called me out for my outbursts because i kept returning. so i ll not make that embarrassing mistake. if i drop by i ll drop by. if i dont. well... i dont. who knows, ggg might pique my interest somehow.

hence i m stating that i m taking a break. i might return. i might not. who knows.

i definitely will be trying out poe2. poe 1? its very likely i ll treat poe1 the same way i treat d1. its a game with a lot of memories. a lot of emotions. but it lives in my past. i do pickup d1 once in a while but tbh its so rare and for such a short time period, its more of reliving old memories like opening up an old photo album that hasnt been touched in years to look at old photos before putting it back to collect dust.

anyway, i m currently enjoying LE. rebuilding my wealth from "pre release" times. their COF faction is SO damn good. i really enjoy playing the game with a "single player economy". they recently released their roadmap. i m quite hyped up for their new cycles/leagues.

i also am interested in d4's new item revamp. might be trying it out for shits and giggles.

i ll still be following POE news. see you guys in POE2.

Sorry to seeya go, temporarily or otherwise, Exile.

As for PoE 1 vs. PoE Too, I've said plenty about my extreme disappointment with the split, especially in the way it was handled after four years of anticipation. I now have little interest in PoE Too. Not only does it look like a very different game with a familiar name, but I have no intention in investing time and energy in it after PoE 1.

PoE 1 is where all my "stuff" is, all my accumulated goodies and characters. And given how GGG has handled certain issues of late, I have lost confidence in their ability to make decisions consistent with my best expectations. I won't be quitting; PoE 1 is a game my wife and I can pick up and play for a while, just to have some fun. Leagues come and go, and if one catches my eye, I'll give it a shot. But I am, first and foremost, that ostensibly rare beast known as a Standard player, much maligned and even mocked by those who hate replaying the campaign, yet do so every new league in order to construct a new economy from the ground up, only to watch it all pile up in Standard at the end of three or four months.

But, hey! that's what they enjoy. If only that portion of our "community" would understand why I and some other "unicorns" prefer Standard, and would get all the way off of our backs.

At any rate, I'll still walk the sunny shores of Wraeclast for as long as the waves beat the sands of the Twilight Strand, with Hillock there to greet me. The vicissitudes of the game will little affect me, barring some monumental shift in the basic game. If, as I fear, PoE 1 is ultimately allowed to die, in favor of its newer incarnation, well, everything I've done, achieved, accumulated will go away with it.

And so will I. ='[.]'=

Kinda stopped at "lack of interest".

Both in regards to your post and literally, it is a good place to stop but one very few of us can accept at first.

It's a bit like saying, "I don't care". You care enough to say it, but it's probably true that you care so little that saying it is about all you want to contribute.

A step, and not the final one.

The final one you won't notice.

For most Exiles who linger, that "lack of interest" in playing is not necessarily "lack of interest" in the game itself, which would be weird had Chris not gone to such lengths to turn PoE into a meta-game spectacle.

I found quitting the game almost underwhelmingly easy. Look at my signature. It does not lack for games I enjoy much...much more. But quitting PoE in the Brokeback Mountain sense? Teach me how not to care for the beauty and wonder it was for me, is for others, shall remain for many yet to come.

As an aside, that "it's not an airport" line is catchy, quick and, as with most catchy and quick things, uselessly simplistic. No one who feels the need or desire to announce their departure from a community or a game ever saw its hub as something as impersonal and transient as an airport. It's a club. A pub. A meeting space of mutual interest. I fucking hate it when people trollishly minimise the significance of virtual interaction because they're afraid of admitting they might care about it too...or refuse to out of a fear of exposing vulnerability. Either is weak and cowardly.

Enjoy your break from the game, for whatever reason prompted it. Like I said, I didn't read it because I am fairly confident "lack of interest" is as good a TLDR as anyone could give.

It's not an airport, but sometimes it's a diary. Writing something impassioned, earnest and generally not worth most people's time is just a rite of passage with any online community. As I have proven yet again just now. :)

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

It's not an airport, but sometimes it's a diary. Writing something impassioned, earnest and generally not worth most people's time is just a rite of passage with any online community. As I have proven yet again just now. :)

you know what, its pretty refreshing to not get shit on by random forummers and despite not fully reading what i wrote. being on the internet for so long one would think i would get used to negativity or even expect it. instead you just addressed me and even pointed out some of my concerns, you knew why i wrote the way i wrote. i appreciate that.

your TLDR i think can be accurate. if i still had interest, i would simply play it rather than make another "departure" post.

and yeah, its just something i want to get off my chest.

in a way its therapeutic.

cheers

Me. Random.

Ooouch!

Lol.

Anyway I was mid shower and thinking about you (haha) and realised there is a perfect quote for this situation. Its a bit cliched now but I dug up hopefully the first usage of it.

In 1921, an Austrian psychologist named Wilhelm Stekel wrote in German what is now often repeated in English: "the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference".

And what is a lack of interest if not the seed of indifference?

Mm. Who cares? Whoever asks. :)

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Me. Random.

Ooouch!

Lol.

Anyway I was mid shower and thinking about you (haha) and realised there is a perfect quote for this situation. Its a bit cliched now but I dug up hopefully the first usage of it.

In 1921, an Austrian psychologist named Wilhelm Stekel wrote in German what is now often repeated in English: "the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference".

And what is a lack of interest if not the seed of indifference?

Mm. Who cares? Whoever asks. :)

awh man, no shade towards you. but who are we but randos to each other until we get acquainted.

thats quite an interesting quote and a clever spin to it at the end lol.

now we're talking about love. it frustratingly reminds me of my ex. she told me that if i hated her it meant i still loved her.

damn back then i hated her a great deal.

now? who cares lol.

Arpgs are a dead (or rather undead) genre, i would say you write off poe1 a little bit too early.

Poe1: Dead game, stable economy, low drama, fixed endgame in place, most likely will have a small group of dedicated players.

Poe2: 3 month betas, constantly new bugs, unstable gameplay, soloplayer game market similator.

See you in few years.

From my experience such break is good thing.

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Lachdanan wrote:

Arpgs are a dead (or rather undead) genre, i would say you write off poe1 a little bit too early.

Poe1: Dead game, stable economy, low drama, fixed endgame in place, most likely will have a small group of dedicated players.

Poe2: 3 month betas, constantly new bugs, unstable gameplay, soloplayer game market similator.

too early? i've played the game 10 years, when would be considered a good time? lol

POE1 has a lot of good things going for it for example the end game and content is so filled to the brim that its to the point of bloat.

i have a few issues with poe1

1. ggg not caring for item permanency on std
2. trying to make aspirational content something players are expected to clear instead of being optional.
3. archaic systems that were supposed to be changed/replaced by newer systems via poe2, namely gem system and melee.
4. nothing new to look forward to. new leagues for sure are interesting but its not as significant as poe2's new campaign and new ascendancies.

the promise of poe2 being an expansion to poe1 was the sole reason i kept playing poe1 all these years, the idea was when poe2 dropped i would have a wealth of legacy/OP gear to try new stuff with new ascendencies and new content.

what do i have left now? i m repeating the same campaign and end game every league. the process is going to be the same every new league. i always have to refarm 1500 fuse to get 6 links. my item sockets will always be limited with no new playstyle. i wont get any new meaningful ascendancies.

its the same for diablo 1. when diablo 2 came out, i just play diablo 2 and leave diablo 1 behind. when titan quest 2 came out i left diablo 2 behind.

POE had the potential to be my forever game, but thats no longer happening.

the caveat is, if GGG manages to make POE2 significantly better and more fun and make sure that POE 3/4/5 etc become expansions to POE2, i m pretty sure POE2 could become my forever game.

but i do agree its likely to have bugs etc but thats expected for newer games.

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de99ial wrote:

See you in few years.

From my experience such break is good thing.

maybe that time i d install the game play abit. reminiscence abit then uninstall. thats what i do with diablo 1 once in a while. nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

cheers

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