PoE 2 is forced Ruthless mode, GGG not coming right out from the beginning saying so is, um yeah...

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Monstarella wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

1. PoE2 is copletely different game, with different combat flow, builds, campaign etc

2. Ruthless was internal game mode for their fun, players asked for it and ggg gave what they wanted.

3. You got what you payed for. It doesnt give you any right to dictate companies direction.

No one but the 0.0000000000000001% asked for it. You have no idea what you're talking about, buddy.

A statement so devoid of factual evidence supporting it one can only wonder where you got that idea from. The amount of excitement for PoE2 is such that people travel from all over the world to NZ to be there in person to witness the news on ExileCon. Over 100k people watch the livestream of it happening.

According to your made up number that would be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 people versus the 8,100,000,000 people actually inhabitating the planet.

This kinda hyperbole is why people can't take you haters seriously.

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Monstarella wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

1. PoE2 is copletely different game, with different combat flow, builds, campaign etc

2. Ruthless was internal game mode for their fun, players asked for it and ggg gave what they wanted.

3. You got what you payed for. It doesnt give you any right to dictate companies direction.

No one but the 0.0000000000000001% asked for it. You have no idea what you're talking about, buddy.

Do you mean POE 2 or Ruthless? Not many people asked for Ruthless but POE 2, but that doesn't mean it was a minority of a minority, I remember a lot was said about Ruthless back then, but POE 2 was daily talk no matter the topic about.

On the other hand, no one "asked" for Ruthless as the other player stated, it was a pseudo-secret project, which was launched after a lot of development and it was only in the final phases that we saw that hype, it wasn't much of a hype and claims for it, but it was there for sure.

And since POE 2 exists as a mere known concept, everyone were clamoring for more information, release date (which we already have), music, etc., etc. I was never interested in Ruthless, but POE 2 really caught my attention idc if POE 2 is Ruthless 2.0, like can't care less, is another game.

I like how some people can both think poe 2 is going to kill 1 and Poe 2 is going to be like Ruthless while still thinking it make sense.

I just want to add that indeed we know nothing.
We knew, for example, for quite some time that PoE2 would be an alternative campaign, leading to the same endgame as PoE1. Some people even made fun of those calling PoE2 a new game because it was more like a glorified expansion.
Seems now like we didn't know, after all.

Now we think we know something (or some things) about PoE2 - yet they're not set in stone. GGG can decide any time to change things that were already presented as a feature.

I don't know how many people here remember the Diablo 3 beta, shortly before release and how runes were supposed to work. But when D3 was released, they didn't resemble the beta at all.

And D2 being the father or ARPGS? Please. Before there was a D2, there was a D1.