Player stats has been decreased after game update. Is the game is still beta version?

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neosphoros wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

I delete characters, highest was 96 i think, i dont care much about it.

Btw 2mil dps is really nothing special...

You have deleted your strongest character to create 16 other???? ... and all of them are in standard league now? and non of them are strong and have good equipement? I bet that you are trying to progress them all now, right? (SIC!) Do not you think that this is a form of extremely wasting a time (apart of the fact that that spending so much time in POE is a wasting a time itslef)?

- No awakened gems
- No 21/23 gems
- No cluster jewels
- No historic jewel

What are you trying to achieve by this? Is not the progress in game should be a goal? Opposite to this non of your character is strong, and non of your equipment is good.

How and what you want to proof anything by this to me?

Is not that called ignorance?

Dude he is right 2 million DPS is easily achievable with just trash rares found off the ground as you progress... If you understand mechanics and how to build around the skill you are working with. Hell close to half the skills in the game this is possible. No need for Awaken, 21/23, clusters, or "Historic" Jewels. Just a decent build, tree, and 20/20 gems all round with at least half decent gear. Especially now days when builds are capable of 100s of millions of damage endgame with all those things you mention that apparently you think are necessary for a measly 2 million DPS. lol

And stop complaining about your builds if you feel it necessary to also keep your profile Private. And definitely stop ripping on other peoples builds if you cant even show yours. It's just not a good look.

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Demonoz wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

I delete characters, highest was 96 i think, i dont care much about it.

Btw 2mil dps is really nothing special...

You have deleted your strongest character to create 16 other???? ... and all of them are in standard league now? and non of them are strong and have good equipement? I bet that you are trying to progress them all now, right? (SIC!) Do not you think that this is a form of extremely wasting a time (apart of the fact that that spending so much time in POE is a wasting a time itslef)?

- No awakened gems
- No 21/23 gems
- No cluster jewels
- No historic jewel

What are you trying to achieve by this? Is not the progress in game should be a goal? Opposite to this non of your character is strong, and non of your equipment is good.

How and what you want to proof anything by this to me?

Is not that called ignorance?

Dude he is right 2 million DPS is easily achievable with just trash rares found off the ground as you progress... If you understand mechanics and how to build around the skill you are working with. Hell close to half the skills in the game this is possible. No need for Awaken, 21/23, clusters, or "Historic" Jewels. Just a decent build, tree, and 20/20 gems all round with at least half decent gear. Especially now days when builds are capable of 100s of millions of damage endgame with all those things you mention that apparently you think are necessary for a measly 2 million DPS. lol

And stop complaining about your builds if you feel it necessary to also keep your profile Private. And definitely stop ripping on other peoples builds if you cant even show yours. It's just not a good look.

Eh, neo dood does this every few months. makes a post how it's impossible to kill bosses with his super secret overpowered build
And some people answer to him with a bit too annoyed tone and get timed out from the forums.

Edit: meanwhile it's okay when he tells other players that their characters suck and have bad gear and that they're arrogant.

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Demonoz wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

I delete characters, highest was 96 i think, i dont care much about it.

Btw 2mil dps is really nothing special...

You have deleted your strongest character to create 16 other???? ... and all of them are in standard league now? and non of them are strong and have good equipement? I bet that you are trying to progress them all now, right? (SIC!) Do not you think that this is a form of extremely wasting a time (apart of the fact that that spending so much time in POE is a wasting a time itslef)?

- No awakened gems
- No 21/23 gems
- No cluster jewels
- No historic jewel

What are you trying to achieve by this? Is not the progress in game should be a goal? Opposite to this non of your character is strong, and non of your equipment is good.

How and what you want to proof anything by this to me?

Is not that called ignorance?

Dude he is right 2 million DPS is easily achievable with just trash rares found off the ground as you progress... If you understand mechanics and how to build around the skill you are working with. Hell close to half the skills in the game this is possible. No need for Awaken, 21/23, clusters, or "Historic" Jewels. Just a decent build, tree, and 20/20 gems all round with at least half decent gear. Especially now days when builds are capable of 100s of millions of damage endgame with all those things you mention that apparently you think are necessary for a measly 2 million DPS. lol

And stop complaining about your builds if you feel it necessary to also keep your profile Private. And definitely stop ripping on other peoples builds if you cant even show yours. It's just not a good look.

I have shared my profile/character. Tell my my dmg/dps...

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imanubcake wrote:

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Eh, neo dood does this every few months. makes a post how it's impossible to kill bosses with his super secret overpowered build
And some people answer to him with a bit too annoyed tone and get timed out from the forums.

Edit: meanwhile it's okay when he tells other players that their characters suck and have bad gear and that they're arrogant.

Yeah. I agree crew must be better to see the picture. Unfortunately it is not so today. I have told them and will write again and take it higher up and give them some suggestions.

Because if you have a forum and let the shit stays on the floor, the flies will come. The solution is nog to get rid of the flies, but get rid of the shit.

My personal opinions is that there should be on long messy thread where all people could whine about everything. No expectations to tell why or what could be better and how it will affect in total.

The rest, have some mandatory things what is minimum to start a thread. In feedback and suggestions it should be just that, and then have like a few things must be in thread start. For example, what part (could be small or big) are good or bad, then what makes you think so and could it be done in a better way? SO it is to some use.

If someone starts a thread like trash, that one is also responsible for all the flies coming to that thread. Ofc there should be no hate - but as you said, sometimes it not even allowed to disagree and tell why, because it didnt seem constructive and they talk about CoC wthout pointing what break those rules. Thats one of the lowest way to discuss or critisize because the other part is put in a situation that is not acceptable, what I think. But it's totally fine dumping "I don't agree", does that seem to be constructive?

I dont complain to much about it and most probably there will be no improvements but negativity is spreading fast, like the opposite. And I think it's good to critisize or have ideas no matter if I agree or not, but some quality should be to expect. This is a forum, not a chat. And the chat - hell no we even try to get that better right now. Ignore will do for now :)

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neosphoros wrote:

I have shared my profile/character. Tell my my dmg/dps...

https://ibb.co/hdYdnBv
https://ibb.co/yNbQj89

Here you go. Your PoB vs mine. Characters are public so you can verify as much as you want.

This hole thread is hilarious, being salty about a couple thousand dps.

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

This hole thread is hilarious, being salty about a couple thousand dps.

Salty is GGG who is manipulating players.
It is not about "couple thousand dps", it is about constant nerfing character class which making the whole game unfair due to the fact that whole character progress make no sense.
Probobly in every patch (but in last 3 for sure) Hierophant class has been nerfed. 2 high dmg passive skills were removed (fire mastery, totem mastery), totems are removed after the death or Demon Stitcher (gloves) are not gaining energy shield on totem creation anymore. Funniest thing that there is nothing about that in patch note like GGG want to hide it. Is it fairgame with players? There is a lot more things that is not right, so...
I do not know if you are playing any sport game... but would you feel comfortable if someone would put on you some weights without saying - why? Exactly how it works in POE now with Hierophant.
No this is not about only "a couple thousand dps" my friend.

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neosphoros wrote:

Salty is GGG who is manipulating players.
It is not about couple thousand dps, it is about constant nerfing character class which making the whole game unfair due to the fact that whole character progress make no sense.
Probobly in every patch (but in last 3 for sure) Hierophant class has been nerfed. 2 high dmg passive skills were removed (fire mastery, totem mastery), totems are removed after the death or Demon Stitcher (gloves) are not gaining energy shield on totem creation anymore. Funniest thing that there is nothing about that in patch note like GGG want to hide it. Is it fairgame with players? There is a lot more things that is not right, so...
I do not know if you are playing any sport game... but would you feel comfortable if someone would put on you some weights without saying - why? Exactly how it works in POE now with Hierophant.
No this is not about only "a couple thousand dps" my friend.

Because if your character was built properly you could do 20 times as much dps with your budget. Swallow your pride, follow build guide. You will see how much different the game feels.

As i have shown you, you have 340k dps per totem, with awakened gems, expensive uniques etc and thats on normal mobs meanwhile i have 4 milion SHAPER DPS with like 150c worth of gear. Your problem is being to stuborn to admit that you are not as good as you think. Your character has 0 synergies between gear and passives, you use expensive and pointless items etc. Are there overnerfed archetpes in PoE? Sure there are plenty, GGG even destroyed some completely but thats the nature of this game. They change things > you adapt. Thats what we like in this game.

My advice is simple. For once take any build guide, make new character and follow it. You will see how strong a character can be in this game when you know what you do.

Kinda question how OP feels about like MMOs taking nerf hammers to classes going from patch to patch up to expansions to expansions.

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kuciol2 wrote:

My advice is simple. For once take any build guide, make new character and follow it. You will see how strong a character can be in this game when you know what you do.

Eeeeeeeeeeeh.... *weakly waves hands* I recall following a few guides that didn't pan out or expected you to know something that the guide itself didn't tell you to do. Years ago I followed a Dodge Tornado shot build that never seemed to get going. A couple Templar builds I've tried also had the same problem of "When does this pop off?" and that moment of pop is so far down the way it just feels weak.

Or it's built around like one or two equips and it's subpar till then which leads back into "Why is this not working?"

What I'm getting at is that even when followed 'right' it still feels like you can mess up. Though is that on the player or the guide is on a case by case basis.

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kuciol2 wrote:

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neosphoros wrote:

Salty is GGG who is manipulating players.
It is not about couple thousand dps, it is about constant nerfing character class which making the whole game unfair due to the fact that whole character progress make no sense.
Probobly in every patch (but in last 3 for sure) Hierophant class has been nerfed. 2 high dmg passive skills were removed (fire mastery, totem mastery), totems are removed after the death or Demon Stitcher (gloves) are not gaining energy shield on totem creation anymore. Funniest thing that there is nothing about that in patch note like GGG want to hide it. Is it fairgame with players? There is a lot more things that is not right, so...
I do not know if you are playing any sport game... but would you feel comfortable if someone would put on you some weights without saying - why? Exactly how it works in POE now with Hierophant.
No this is not about only "a couple thousand dps" my friend.

Because if your character was built properly you could do 20 times as much dps with your budget. Swallow your pride, follow build guide. You will see how much different the game feels.

As i have shown you, you have 340k dps per totem, with awakened gems, expensive uniques etc and thats on normal mobs meanwhile i have 4 milion SHAPER DPS with like 150c worth of gear. Your problem is being to stuborn to admit that you are not as good as you think. Your character has 0 synergies between gear and passives, you use expensive and pointless items etc. Are there overnerfed archetpes in PoE? Sure there are plenty, GGG even destroyed some completely but thats the nature of this game. They change things > you adapt. Thats what we like in this game.

My advice is simple. For once take any build guide, make new character and follow it. You will see how strong a character can be in this game when you know what you do.

Would you like to show me when (or where) I have expressed that I'm that good (or better than anyone else)? Only becouse I have shown that my equipement is better does not mean more than - it realy means. It is you who are trying to manipulating community opinion that I'm the one who is realy bad and most of you trying to distort the facts by minimalizing negative GGG impact on fair-play rules for each of us.
As it is easy to see the class of Hierophant is the only one with so many negative changes within her statistics due to the many patches and all of those without any informations about this.

However if you will check you will realize that my Hierophant Holly Flame Totem Build is the most powerful from the shared on the internet.