Eternal Youth + Ghost Reaver inconsistency

Testing mechanics on standard in prep of new league I found some inconsistency with eternal youth, not sure if bug or intended. "Less energy shield recharge rate" from wicked ward does not change life recharge. "You cannot recharge or regenerate energy shield" from Shavronne's Revelation ring does not change life recharge. "Cannot recharge energy shield" from Ghost Reaver keystone cuts life recharge by 50% ?????

Can confirm, but seems like "Cannot Recharge Energy Shield" is not the culprit wearing these boots is not affecting Life Recharge to me.

There might be a bug but so far I can only see just misunderstanding of the mechanics.

Eternal Youth:
Energy Shield Recharge instead applies to Life
Means that the HP resource 'life' getting the same mechanics 'recharge' as ES and the numerical 'value' that normally represents the mechanics now applied to Life instead of ES.

You cannot recharge Energy Shield
means you can't do that. But the line doesn't set the ES recharge rate to 0, it's only applicable to ES recharge, with EY you recharging Life instead

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MonaHuna wrote:

Can confirm, but seems like "Cannot Recharge Energy Shield" is not the culprit

wearing these boots is not affecting Life Recharge to me.

That is the rub, those boots have the same wording as the shav's ring "You cannot recharge energy shield" both of which does nothing to life recharge. The Ghost reaver keystone has the wording "Cannot recharge energy shield". The lack of the "You" somehow leads to halving the life recharge rate which I find weird and possibly a bug.

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Formidonis wrote:

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MonaHuna wrote:

Can confirm, but seems like "Cannot Recharge Energy Shield" is not the culprit

wearing these boots is not affecting Life Recharge to me.

That is the rub, those boots have the same wording as the shav's ring "You cannot recharge energy shield" both of which does nothing to life recharge. The Ghost reaver keystone has the wording "Cannot recharge energy shield". The lack of the "You" somehow leads to halving the life recharge rate which I find weird and possibly a bug.

Well I haven't read your tests carefully enough. Anyways, "You" here just indicates it's you who can't recharge ES. Maybe it reads less obvious on items so clarifying is needed. "Cannot Recharge Energy Shield" and "You cannot Recharge Energy Shield" (and the conditional version from the ring) supposed to work identically. This is a bug indeed.

Another bug is Wicked Ward "40% less Energy Shield Recharge Rate" doesn't apply to Life Recharge (as you noticed), while generally ES recharge modifiers have to apply to it. E.g. Eldritch Battery halves Life Recharge, just like Ghost Reaver 🤭🤭

Actually, Ghost Reaver used to have "50% less Energy Shield Recharge Rate" stat, maybe internally they never delete it since "Cannot Recharge Energy Shield" overlaps it anyways.

Can confirm,
Please see following pictures
https://imgur.com/a/D9s351i

I've also tested them to make sure it wasn't a visual bug on the character sheet. each keystone reducing life recharge on the character sheet does end up reducing life recharge in practice.

they should either all reduce it/ remove it completely in ghost reaver's case or not interact with it at all like wicked ward.

completely biased here but would be nice to use eternal youth for something that isn't a complete meme, those keystones require quite a bit of travel to reach anyways for nothing really game breaking imo but ultimately it just needs to be consistent one way or another.

Interesting mechanic that I was thinking of using for my new character, glad to see someone else managed to test it. Hope this interaction will be clarified soon!

I'm pretty sure this is a bug and it shouldn't affect recharge of life at all. I think the bug has something with the 3.16 change to ghost reaver. Ghost Reaver used to cut recharge by 50%, it seems that it is still the case for life.

There is a lot of inconsistent behaviour, like eldritch battery cutting the life recharge by 50% and wicked ward not applying the 40% penalty although they both have the same wording

Well, Eternal Youth + Ghost Reaver is fixed (3.19.0g), Eternal Youth + Wicked Ward is not.
Likely decided against mid-league nerfs for builds using this interaction, since it's not gamebreaking (very strong though).