[3.25] CWDT Ward Loop Scion

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Naw4k wrote:
one question, right now in gem progression but sometimes i still got oneshot by mobs. I think its mostly direct hits (so i guess its physical dmg) but as we dont want to have additional armor I have no idea to mitigate this.
I changed some things in the tree to get 100 spell suppression as well as some additional avoidance (grace).

Any ideas how to get rid of this attack one shots?
Can see my gear in my profile (GemmaMeta)


Last time I checked evasion breaks the builds, but perhaps I need to check again
And you cannot take physical hits larger than Life + Ward

So to tolerate more physical hits, You need to get more Ward + life

Go for 3700 life + 1900 ward
And mind over matter

3700 * 1.3 + 1900 = 6710, you can take hits this big

With that setup I never died last league
Also with 3700 life, you will need about 30 chaos resistance
The calculator in the guide, you can use it to see how much chaos resistance works
More life means more forbidden rite self damage
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Naw4k wrote:
one question, right now in gem progression but sometimes i still got oneshot by mobs. I think its mostly direct hits (so i guess its physical dmg) but as we dont want to have additional armor I have no idea to mitigate this.
I changed some things in the tree to get 100 spell suppression as well as some additional avoidance (grace).

Any ideas how to get rid of this attack one shots?
Can see my gear in my profile (GemmaMeta)


I'm curious about how you are getting the 100% uptime on your olroth's flask. It doesn't even have 28% quakiry. Can you post a pob with the mods of your legion jewel? You can right click the skills and select the mods.
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xikorita wrote:
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Naw4k wrote:
one question, right now in gem progression but sometimes i still got oneshot by mobs. I think its mostly direct hits (so i guess its physical dmg) but as we dont want to have additional armor I have no idea to mitigate this.
I changed some things in the tree to get 100 spell suppression as well as some additional avoidance (grace).

Any ideas how to get rid of this attack one shots?
Can see my gear in my profile (GemmaMeta)


I'm curious about how you are getting the 100% uptime on your olroth's flask. It doesn't even have 28% quakiry. Can you post a pob with the mods of your legion jewel? You can right click the skills and select the mods.


https://pastebin.com/uN4cFrPU

here, flask uptime is no problem
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Naw4k wrote:
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xikorita wrote:
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Naw4k wrote:
one question, right now in gem progression but sometimes i still got oneshot by mobs. I think its mostly direct hits (so i guess its physical dmg) but as we dont want to have additional armor I have no idea to mitigate this.
I changed some things in the tree to get 100 spell suppression as well as some additional avoidance (grace).

Any ideas how to get rid of this attack one shots?
Can see my gear in my profile (GemmaMeta)


I'm curious about how you are getting the 100% uptime on your olroth's flask. It doesn't even have 28% quakiry. Can you post a pob with the mods of your legion jewel? You can right click the skills and select the mods.


https://pastebin.com/uN4cFrPU

here, flask uptime is no problem


You dont seem to be resist capped?

pob says 63 fire, 75 cold and 65.
i changed the tree a little bit, got a 28 quali flask but i think it still not enought to sustain the olroths, how many flask duration do i exactly need?

https://pastebin.com/8k48Pisr

POB shows me uptime of 87%, flask effect 11.60 sec
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Naw4k wrote:
i changed the tree a little bit, got a 28 quali flask but i think it still not enought to sustain the olroths, how many flask duration do i exactly need?

https://pastebin.com/8k48Pisr

POB shows me uptime of 87%, flask effect 11.60 sec


That is something that I am trying to learn. It says on your second pob that you dont have "+20% charge gain modifier". I don't know where you lost it from first to second pob. You also has a missing jewel slot.

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Akshay wrote:

Welcome, can you tell me how much it cost you totally?
Also if possible please make a recording

I don't have this build yet in this league


Sure, this is my pob now https://pastebin.com/9PUqHsK6 (resist cap yay)

The most expensive thing for sure were all the gems. People don't level cast when damage taken, lol.


Gems: 8-10 exalts. I got all with the right lv/quality.
Clusters: 4 exalts. Rolled my flasks with reforge speed.
Helmet with enchant: 4 exa. Rolled the ward on all my items myself
Dust jewels: about 1.2 exa each
Brutal Restraint: 3 exa
Weapon: 4 exa
Olroth: 3 exa

I think it is about 30 exa so far. By lv 73 when I changed I was already doing tier 11-12 maps with a 6 link staff with the essence I threw at it and it was a breeze. I moved to get the Annihilating Light and to use purity of elements.

My next goals is to understand it better how to get 100% flask uptime. Because in fights etc I don't ever run out. But sometimes while standing doing nothing I will die. So I stop the loop when choosing stuff from big heist, ritual etc.

I need better boots. I had one without move speed but that sucks a lot.

Video against a temporal rare that disables the loop and double elder guardian in a t15. In the end I don't dodge something from the harvest and die. I don't know how much I am being saved by the blind on my amulet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1Tp0qh85k
Last edited by xikorita#6561 on May 20, 2022, 10:06:13 AM
Great, the build works perfect

To scale damage, we can use spell/ele damage and crit jewels
Also the same on tree, crit and spell damage

Grand spectrum is a cheap options, easily 145% spell damage for budget.
Flasks seem fine, make evasion 0, some times
I can check on stream in discord, Infinity#6946

Since you are using exact flask setup as guide, it should work, since I tested that

You can get more duration on belt , easy way out


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xikorita wrote:


Sure, this is my pob now https://pastebin.com/9PUqHsK6 (resist cap yay)

The most expensive thing for sure were all the gems. People don't level cast when damage taken, lol.


Gems: 8-10 exalts. I got all with the right lv/quality.
Clusters: 4 exalts. Rolled my flasks with reforge speed.
Helmet with enchant: 4 exa. Rolled the ward on all my items myself
Dust jewels: about 1.2 exa each
Brutal Restraint: 3 exa
Weapon: 4 exa
Olroth: 3 exa

I think it is about 30 exa so far. By lv 73 when I changed I was already doing tier 11-12 maps with a 6 link staff with the essence I threw at it and it was a breeze. I moved to get the Annihilating Light and to use purity of elements.

My next goals is to understand it better how to get 100% flask uptime. Because in fights etc I don't ever run out. But sometimes while standing doing nothing I will die. So I stop the loop when choosing stuff from big heist, ritual etc.

I need better boots. I had one without move speed but that sucks a lot.

Video against a temporal rare that disables the loop and double elder guardian in a t15. In the end I don't dodge something from the harvest and die. I don't know how much I am being saved by the blind on my amulet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1Tp0qh85k


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Akshay wrote:
Flasks seem fine, make evasion 0, some times
I can check on stream in discord, Infinity#6946

Since you are using exact flask setup as guide, it should work, since I tested that

You can get more duration on belt , easy way out


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xikorita wrote:


Sure, this is my pob now https://pastebin.com/9PUqHsK6 (resist cap yay)

The most expensive thing for sure were all the gems. People don't level cast when damage taken, lol.


Gems: 8-10 exalts. I got all with the right lv/quality.
Clusters: 4 exalts. Rolled my flasks with reforge speed.
Helmet with enchant: 4 exa. Rolled the ward on all my items myself
Dust jewels: about 1.2 exa each
Brutal Restraint: 3 exa
Weapon: 4 exa
Olroth: 3 exa

I think it is about 30 exa so far. By lv 73 when I changed I was already doing tier 11-12 maps with a 6 link staff with the essence I threw at it and it was a breeze. I moved to get the Annihilating Light and to use purity of elements.

My next goals is to understand it better how to get 100% flask uptime. Because in fights etc I don't ever run out. But sometimes while standing doing nothing I will die. So I stop the loop when choosing stuff from big heist, ritual etc.

I need better boots. I had one without move speed but that sucks a lot.

Video against a temporal rare that disables the loop and double elder guardian in a t15. In the end I don't dodge something from the harvest and die. I don't know how much I am being saved by the blind on my amulet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS1Tp0qh85k




It works with 3 fine :D. I want to put the 4th one there. Will have to keep following your guide. I was trying to understand what I needed to get. Now I do ;D

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