why do ppl play SSF?
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I tried SSF, and it was fun... For a while. The thrill was in every drop being a potential upgrade, mixing and matching whatever gear turned up to support a build. However, over time, it became like a slightly more impoverished Standard, with stash tabs full of items with which to twink new characters, and the thrill went away. Re-establishing crafting options and other ssuch mechanics wasn't all that fun, either. However, the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back was the fact that, every single time I logged into SSF, it messed up my Standard stash organization.
Race rewards in Remove Only tabs (and I still have a LOT of 'em!) just slid all over the place, mixing with other tabs in ways which elicited from me much salty language. It was an easy decision ultimately to decamp from SSF entirely. I still enjoy Standard, so it's no great loss for me. =^[.]^= =^[.]^= basic (happy/amused) cheetahmoticon: Whiskers/eye/tear-streak/nose/tear-streak/eye/
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I like SSF. I also run Gentoo Linux. I think that's enough of an explanation. :)
Sriously, what I like about SSF is that accomplishing something feels more like an accomplishment. Beat Kitava A10 deathless (Marauder btw. for those who remember) - feels good man. Beat maps, beat Maven encounters... all knowing that you got the gear for this all by yourself. In my opinion, that's the way a game like PoE should be played. Shags always calls trade cheating. I would agree if you didn't first have to find the currency to trade with somewhere. Nonetheless, it's a shortcut and the question for me really is, a shortcut to what? Amassing wealth? But for what? To buy more gear, fund another build that will blaze through all content and get boring after quite a short while? I never really traded when SSF wasn't around, because it just feels wrong for me. The only downside of SSF for me is that I can't play some builds that depend on a specific unique item, because once you start a build that requires even a rather common unique like, say, Mark of the Red Covenant, you can spend ages without one dropping. For example this league I just found my first Ungil's Gauche at level 85. Usually those are quite abundant and I have a few on my "Uniques for Mysterious Gift" stash tab. And of course, if you don't choose builds with little investment, things can get a bit hairy and at times tedious. TL/DR I have a greater sense of accomplishment in SSF, and things I can't do (yet) don't bother me too much. Bird lover of Wraeclast
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" That's exactly the reason why I enjoy SSF over trade league most of the time. In trade league, everything u do is weighted with "currency per hour" in mind. So it's always in the back of ur head, with every activity u do in game, u always ask urself "is this efficient", every atlas skill point, daily quest, use of currency for crafting/juicing maps... the thought is always there. When I started playing SSF, I quickly realized how stupid those thoughts are and that I actively avoided to play the game. I only played like 10% of its content, just because the other 90% aren't as efficient for getting currency. In SSF u don't lose as much, if u just engage with most or every content in the game... because everything can potentially give u an upgrade. Also League content, u maybe wouldn't do in trade league, because selling those content items is worth alot, u can just run in SSF because there's no loss if u don't get enough returns. (e.g. Logbooks, breach stones, timeless emblems, simulacrum) Right now SCSSF is my prefered playstyle for PoE and if I really want to try a specific build I'm going HC Trade, because it's the closest to how trading used to be in PoE. HC Trade is actually very enjoyable and almost like SSF just with some benefits. (u still can't only farm currency, because the market is very limited... buying upgrades is not always possible) /e: ah and btw. as others have already stated... Endless Delve is in no way a good representation of how SSF League feels like. The options to get gear are so crazy limited, that it really feels bad. Also I'm lvl 88 right now, depth ~150 and I didn't find a single Jade or Granite flask. I checked my lootfilter 3 times and from time to time I find another utility flask, but it's really depressing. Last edited by Sadaukar#2191 on Dec 8, 2021, 7:27:49 AM
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SSF has more personal legitimacy and upgrades are common with reasonable goals being achievable and satisfying however it substantially lowers your bar for overall objectives.
SC trade removes all limitations on character creation as well as a majority of upgrades or tangible improvements to iterate on over time in return for maximum scope for overall objectives. HC and HC SSF fit in along the same lines. Personally I get bored very rapidly without goals, and the goals on SC are very easy to meet (or were tbh my last SC league was Heist). This is compounded by just how much gear is available for trade on SC. I'd feel too restricted by full SSF though because I play weird shit, and weird shit requires weird items as a result its regular HC for me. If i could choose my own i'd play HC with SC trade though these days, that would open up a full extra tier of builds I could play without losing the requirement of not dying. I realise I could fake this by just playing SC but i'm not really disciplined enough to do that and i'd just end up playing regular SC. |
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" I would say you're playing trade wrong if you're chasing currency because no matter how juiced those maps are currency drops pale in comparison to item drops. There are quite a few cards over 10ex. Tons of unique and unique jewels well over 10ex (voices, watchers eyes, etc) Crafting good jewels and rares that meta is using is another avenue to riches. Boss farming. Back when I played trade it was rush to uber atziri and sell her good gloves at 120ex a pop. I'm sure it's same deal with Sirus and Maven drops. Finally, nothing beats a hideout warrior. Buy low sell high just like they do on Wall Street/Hedge Funds who are the richest guys in the world. Not Farmers. I feel ya abt SSF. You can play game for what u need out of it not what others do. More fun even though I'd probably still play trade if we had an AH. The grind to end game gets old and I still dont have a HH SSF. Tried to double my 4 Dr cards in Harvest gambling. Big Mistake, now I have zero, and took wind out of my sails this league. Trade would ameliorate that because I could sell inapplicable for applicable even if I traded lightly. Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Dec 8, 2021, 10:26:11 AM
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lol
Why do people play trade leagues? Who the f*ck likes trading and how it is implemented? Because the game has been intentionally balanced so that the crafting and drops -aspects that drive me and many others on to arpgs in the first place- are totally f*cked up to no end. The way I see it, GGG has a great game on their hands which they mess up due to ideological reasons. So, from my point of view, the whole question lays on a wrong basis. Last edited by vmt80#6169 on Dec 8, 2021, 10:25:10 AM
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" It was worse. Remember when trade was chat spam, forums, and town board? Finally peo.trade came along and forced them to make it searchable too a few years later. It's like they want you to play SSF but balance game for trade. AH is only way I'll go back. The dealing with ppl, delays, associated scams and personalities is bullocks. I read a study that 98% of work related tensions are because of people conflict. Why we need this in our free time? Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Dec 8, 2021, 11:00:13 AM
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Currency means more in SSF and I enjoy crafting.
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" Mainly for this reason. I like to build and find items myself. Gets me excited when i see an armor base that i could use for my current gem setup. PoE trade league reminds me of early days auction house D3 where people mostly farmed gold and played auction house simulator instead of being exited about drops, since anything in the AH was better than what they would normally find. I smirk at PoE trade as well in this regard. When there is a huge pool of available items (thanks to trade league) ppl tend to pick the best one, not the one that would work, so anything that would drop afterwards is by default worse than stuff from the AH (PoE trade). I guess i triggered some people by this, but you asked why i play SSF. So here we go. Masterpiece of 3.16 lore
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" The fuck logic indeed. The loot in this game is horrendously bad. All rares roll bad, high tier uniques never drop. Your logic is trade sucks, limit your self to said horrendous loot. Logic? What logic. You've lost me. This is without even getting into the fact the games drops are balanced around the existence of trading, and SSF doesn't adjust anything to account for no trading. SSF is a handicap. A very boring one. Last edited by DamageIncorporated#7815 on Dec 8, 2021, 1:09:24 PM
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