[3.16 HC] Discharge Ignite Prolif Guardian (Video)

Note: This build is still in its experimental stages. I have run the current iteration up to level 85 so far and into early red maps (T11-12) That said, it has been such fun for me to play, and has felt so well suited to the league mechanic, that I am sharing the basic concepts with you now. We will learn about scaling it into the endgame together.

Edit: Discontinued pursuing this build for a stronger variation. Write up of the 3.16HC Chieftain version can be found at https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3220098. Includes video of fights with Sirus A8, The Formed, and a delve from 382-386.


Build Overview:
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Guardian makes use of the Harmony of purpose Ascendancy with a storm cloud or Tempest bow and Barrage>GMP>Faster Attacks>LGOH<Culling strike to generate charges very quickly. Thief's torment with this set up provides active life gain around 3k/second with defense rounded out by Determination, Vaal Molten Shell (sub 3 second cooldown for the non-vaal shell), Purity of elements, and the Guardian's other ascendancies. Slotting discharge in a Frostferno helm allows for the use of Kaom's for even more tankiness. Frostferno + avatar of fire allow full use of most sources of damage for our ignites, missing only half of that generated by power charges. The result is a tanky feeling playstyle with many enjoyable explosions.


Videos:
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Playstyle Video (T10 Waste Pool medium rolled at level 82): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TQGJj4OUUg


Pastebin:
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(Updated) Build is far from optimized, but here is the current iteration in progress, which will give a decent sense of the basic structure of the tree and basic gear: https://pastebin.com/0fTvxTeR


Current Endgame Wishlist:
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Endgame wishlist:
+2 amulet
+8 double corrupt Frostferno


I plan to fill out the rest of the guide later, but have run out of time for now. I am planning to be around to discuss and answer questions as the league progresses, and will be happy to collaborate on improvements to the build with anyone electing to try it out.

Wishing you all an enjoyable league,
Orion
Last edited by Orion72#3803 on Dec 7, 2021, 7:40:18 AM
Last bumped on Feb 1, 2022, 12:25:22 PM
Tree/Gear updated with new iteration at lvl 85. Dramatically tankier using a relatively fast cooldown long duration molten shell/Vaal Molten shell to walk around at over 11k EHP most of the time. POB: https://pastebin.com/0fTvxTeR
Ive seen you RIP like 10 times with discharge build , overall I very liked this build when I saw it first on POE ninja , and I copied it a little bit , i did my own iterations , and what can I say , build is so amazing , You can check my profile for more well rounded build setup , honestly it was super tanky , but I ripped yesterday in T10 map to Spider Boss that explodes corpses he exploded me .... anyway one of my favourite builds , and really strong Guardina varian , 75% block with Rearguard quiver , I could only imagine the dmg with double corrupt frostfertno which would be very hard to get , btw i used Volls devotion+ romira for perma charges , allthough it can be subsided in late game , for +2 ammy and some +1 charge ring IMO , well rounded build , btw , quill rain is much faster than Tempest bow and cheaper :) I think ill try this next league again :) as dischargers are my faavourite build , Poe Ninja Heavens_Chosen if you want to check my build .
Will def check it out. I have been playing around with different iterations and ideas around discharge. Have def ripped quite a bit, but ran a couple of em past 90 first. Havent yet settled on my idea of optimal version, but will probably post a more thorough guide once I do.

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Well , my guardian died to corpse explosion boss , was really tanky so far... good luck with you builds , i will be checking them sometimes , cya in next league i guess :)
Ahhh, those are rough for any build that ever stands still. I lost one of my variations that way also. Definitely something one just has to pay great attention to if playing hardcore.

On the plus side, I have done about half a dozen different variations now, and I feel like I am zeroing in on what I feel works best. Testing is going to continue for a bit yet, but I suspect I will be able to put out something more definitive well before next league. I have definitely been having a lot of fun with the cheap versions of a discharge build.

-O
Last edited by Orion72#3803 on Nov 23, 2021, 11:18:45 PM
Probably tried to post this build too soon. Have abandoned it for a stronger idea. Will likely write up my 3.16 version of Chieftain Discharge Ignite sometime later this week.

-O
Looking forward to the Chieftan write up!
Chieftain write up is complete. MUCH happier with that version of the build. Includes videos of Sirus A8, The Formed, and a Delve from 382-386.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3220098

-O
What do you think for league starter
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