👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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oyoya wrote:

Hi guys, i would like to ask what is the best minions build for league starter 3.19?

I think the easiest starter for fresh start is Guardian with Melee SRS. The first ascendancy is Radiant crusade. It gives minions 10% more damage, 20% attack speed, 20% movement speed. That will be a big boost for Act 4-7. Then Unwavering Crusade.

Some people like AW, but I don't like the playstyle (cast bladefall to make lingering blades then summon AW one by one).

Absolution is also good (I don't like the only 25% to spawn on boss hit).

If you want more options. Start with Witch + SRS. Then decide when you do first lab. Witch for Melee SRS or SRS Bomber, Elementalist for golems, Occultist for spiders.

Hmm.. Guardian seems like a good option for defenses with Radiant/Unwavering Faith as well and perma onslaught is fun QoL, but we lose the 50% skill duration from Mistress of Sacrifice, which hits hard on both melee SRS and the offering :/
That'd make a passive tree skill duration node mandatory I guess...

About Scion, would be viable as a LS?
Is viable a hybrid with "Spiritual aid" notable since now is more easy to get minion dmg?

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fistoz wrote:

Hmm.. Guardian seems like a good option for defenses with Radiant/Unwavering Faith as well and perma onslaught is fun QoL, but we lose the 50% skill duration from Mistress of Sacrifice, which hits hard on both melee SRS and the offering :/
That'd make a passive tree skill duration node mandatory I guess...

Offering base duration is 5s and +1s for each corpse. Desecrate makes 5 corpses. So usually Offering is 9s duration. Trigger is 8s :)

Less duration for SRS is a not good though... more casting needed.

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ewlyan wrote:

About Scion, would be viable as a LS?
Is viable a hybrid with "Spiritual aid" notable since now is more easy to get minion dmg?

Scion (Necro/Guardian/Deadeye), but I don't call it league starter because you need to buy Tailwind forbidden jewels. It could be rare/expensive for a few weeks!

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kayella wrote:

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fistoz wrote:

Hmm.. Guardian seems like a good option for defenses with Radiant/Unwavering Faith as well and perma onslaught is fun QoL, but we lose the 50% skill duration from Mistress of Sacrifice, which hits hard on both melee SRS and the offering :/
That'd make a passive tree skill duration node mandatory I guess...

Offering base duration is 5s and +1s for each corpse. Desecrate makes 5 corpses. So usually Offering is 9s duration. Trigger is 8s :)

Less duration for SRS is a not good though... more casting needed.

Well I'm used to cast offering manually. Saves the trigger mod for more minion buff and costs hella less ^^'

But the SRS duration.. Feels mandatory to me, for melee, don't you think ?

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fistoz wrote:

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kayella wrote:

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fistoz wrote:

Hmm.. Guardian seems like a good option for defenses with Radiant/Unwavering Faith as well and perma onslaught is fun QoL, but we lose the 50% skill duration from Mistress of Sacrifice, which hits hard on both melee SRS and the offering :/
That'd make a passive tree skill duration node mandatory I guess...

Offering base duration is 5s and +1s for each corpse. Desecrate makes 5 corpses. So usually Offering is 9s duration. Trigger is 8s :)

Less duration for SRS is a not good though... more casting needed.

Well I'm used to cast offering manually. Saves the trigger mod for more minion buff and costs hella less ^^'

But the SRS duration.. Feels mandatory to me, for melee, don't you think ?

You can grab duration on the tree as Guardian or Scion. There's quite a lot of it if you want.

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Besovskii wrote:

for pure spectre setup

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The Wraithlord Unique Helmet no longer has Minions Regenerate 1% of Life per second, or +1000 to Spectre maximum Life. Instead, it now has "Cannot have non-Spectre Minions", and +2 to maximum number of Spectres.

If only Spectres weren't complete trash...

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Vaildez wrote:

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Besovskii wrote:

for pure spectre setup

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The Wraithlord Unique Helmet no longer has Minions Regenerate 1% of Life per second, or +1000 to Spectre maximum Life. Instead, it now has "Cannot have non-Spectre Minions", and +2 to maximum number of Spectres.

If only Spectres weren't complete trash...

This item is also trash, like before it was... In fact there is only 1 useful stat - 2 spectres, others are useless trash.
"Cannot have non-Spectre Minions" - this limits additional dps and defense so hard, what only maybe 5-6 (or even more!) additional spectres may overcome this restriction.

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fistoz wrote:

But the SRS duration.. Feels mandatory to me, for melee, don't you think ?

I was thinking about this... GGG nerfed monster density a long time ago, so there is a lot of empty space between packs. Sometimes my SRS can't find new monsters so they stop and I need to recast anyway. If the map is juiced, then they tend to die anyway :P Need to recast.

I made a test build for SRS Guardian. The playstyle is more active and quick. Zooming around and casting SRS when unleash is reloaded.