[3.15 WIP] Saboteur Crit BL Mines (Life League-start/SSF to Budget LL ES All Content Viable)

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freebo_be wrote:

I'm level 71 now, starting with low tier maps. Tier 1 - 3 are fine damage-wise but it's very easy to die. I've spent all the currency I got levelling (about 35c) getting to 3000 life like the guide says but I've only been able to reach 2.6k HP.

Got any tips? Thanks.

from what i can see from your gear you're missing a chunk of life from your belt and chest, i levelled life based with a 1h wand and shield and the wand i currently have is still the same wand from lvl 53. getting a shield with high life will help and helm should be able to get a cheapish one with over 100 life on it resists can be evened when buying the shield.

i never bothered picking up the piercing shots cluster while leveling coz i went straight BL on a 6l tabby and your tree is pretty close to discipline and training which will help alot. my life based i was only at 2.8k hp which took me to t7-t8 maps before i had enough currency to transition to LL.

hope it helps

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from what i can see from your gear you're missing a chunk of life from your belt and chest, i levelled life based with a 1h wand and shield and the wand i currently have is still the same wand from lvl 53. getting a shield with high life will help and helm should be able to get a cheapish one with over 100 life on it resists can be evened when buying the shield.

i never bothered picking up the piercing shots cluster while leveling coz i went straight BL on a 6l tabby and your tree is pretty close to discipline and training which will help alot. my life based i was only at 2.8k hp which took me to t7-t8 maps before i had enough currency to transition to LL.

hope it helps

Thanks so much, I'll get a better helm and shield.

Do I not need the piercing shots cluster if I'm going to use ball lightning? I just followed the POB leveling trees, that's why I have them. If I don't need them I could indeed add them to life nodes.

Thanks a lot for the help

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Ichigo_333 wrote:

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freebo_be wrote:

I'm level 71 now, starting with low tier maps. Tier 1 - 3 are fine damage-wise but it's very easy to die. I've spent all the currency I got levelling (about 35c) getting to 3000 life like the guide says but I've only been able to reach 2.6k HP.

Got any tips? Thanks.

from what i can see from your gear you're missing a chunk of life from your belt and chest, i levelled life based with a 1h wand and shield and the wand i currently have is still the same wand from lvl 53. getting a shield with high life will help and helm should be able to get a cheapish one with over 100 life on it resists can be evened when buying the shield.

i never bothered picking up the piercing shots cluster while leveling coz i went straight BL on a 6l tabby and your tree is pretty close to discipline and training which will help alot. my life based i was only at 2.8k hp which took me to t7-t8 maps before i had enough currency to transition to LL.

hope it helps

I honestly don’t know what he did to have 2.6k life with 35c invested, I’ve literally just finished Tier 1 maps using the gear that dropped while doing the campaign SSF and I have 2.6k life. Shield is a good option to give you a little extra HP and resists but if you’re following the mapping suggestions it seems unnecessary. The crafted wands are super easy to make and +1 to all Lightning spells with crit to spells are quite significant for budget damage throughput. 35c would’ve went a long way to invest towards LL transition. What I did was pick up a few more of the 5% life nodes (literally like 3 passives to hit 2.6k with trash items lol) coming off of nodes we’re already picking up but I’ll update leveling/mapping trees to emphasize a bit more life soon as I’d imagine the campaign is quite a bit rougher on average player anyway. I already suggested dropping Icicle Mines after 5 link and gem swapping LMP, Icicle Mines throughout just doesn’t seem to keep up after the campaign for any blue+ mobs. You could consider The Three Dragons Helmet as a cheap option to keep the freeze defensive layer but you’ll need to adjust some things (Malachai’s Artifice socket immediately comes to mind)

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freebo_be wrote:

Thanks so much, I'll get a better helm and shield.

Do I not need the piercing shots cluster if I'm going to use ball lightning? I just followed the POB leveling trees, that's why I have them. If I don't need them I could indeed add them to life nodes.

Thanks a lot for the help

Ball Lightning auto pierces, the Pierce cluster is only for Icicle Mines.

Hey, thanks for that guide, enjoying it a lot :) I have one question, why are you replacing drop Arcanist Brand and WoC with Armageddon Brand?

NVM
Didn't see Malachai's artifice has EE on it

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Schreckens wrote:

Hey, thanks for that guide, enjoying it a lot :) I have one question, why are you replacing drop Arcanist Brand and WoC with Armageddon Brand?

This is only if you have Malachai’s Artifice. Armageddon Brand will trigger EE, which is a more effective means of -resistance than WoC but you can’t use both because WoC will brick EE with lightning damage. We drop arcanist brand because we’re using a brand to trigger EE, and we self cast the curse or link it to OoS with hextouch for auto application.

E: on another note, at 5L it seems I can avoid Inspiration in favor of Trap and Mine Damage and still fit Clarity level 1-2 effectively avoiding mana flask all together. Try this, if it works for you (make sure you have the mana passives in the mapping tree) you can use a second life Flask which will go a long way for keeping you topped off. Haven’t reached the point of 6 link yet on SSF so if it’s a problem you can switch back to mana flask and drop Clarity but at that point you should definitely be linking Inspiration so it shouldn’t be as far as I can tell.

But isn't added lightning damage to spells for example in wands bricking the armageddon brand/ee? My armageddon brand has fire and lightning damage so this would brick it, right?

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Ichigo_333 wrote:

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freebo_be wrote:

I'm level 71 now, starting with low tier maps. Tier 1 - 3 are fine damage-wise but it's very easy to die. I've spent all the currency I got levelling (about 35c) getting to 3000 life like the guide says but I've only been able to reach 2.6k HP.

Got any tips? Thanks.

from what i can see from your gear you're missing a chunk of life from your belt and chest, i levelled life based with a 1h wand and shield and the wand i currently have is still the same wand from lvl 53. getting a shield with high life will help and helm should be able to get a cheapish one with over 100 life on it resists can be evened when buying the shield.

i never bothered picking up the piercing shots cluster while leveling coz i went straight BL on a 6l tabby and your tree is pretty close to discipline and training which will help alot. my life based i was only at 2.8k hp which took me to t7-t8 maps before i had enough currency to transition to LL.

hope it helps

Yeah, to be honest I don't really know enough about builds so when a build guide doesn't explicitly tell me what to do, I start trying to figure things out on my own and obviously in this case it didn't work out at all, lol.

Could you please tell me what to do? Switch one of the wands for a shield and craft a +1 Lightning spells wand on my own?

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Schreckens wrote:

But isn't added lightning damage to spells for example in wands bricking the armageddon brand/ee? My armageddon brand has fire and lightning damage so this would brick it, right?

That’s an excellent point I hadn’t considered. Crit to spells is better for the +1 to Lightning spells wand but we effectively have to drop Herald of Thunder for the EE setup and make sure there are no other sources of added lightning damage to spells on equipment. I feel confident EE is still more effective damage than WoC + Herald of Thunder as the effectiveness of added lightning damage is not great for BL. This’ll give us even more room to fit something else into the build. Wrath is far too much mana cost but the new Arctic Armor should be live soon(TM) and coincidentally has a 25% mana reservation, same as HoT.

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freebo_be wrote:

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Ichigo_333 wrote:

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freebo_be wrote:

I'm level 71 now, starting with low tier maps. Tier 1 - 3 are fine damage-wise but it's very easy to die. I've spent all the currency I got levelling (about 35c) getting to 3000 life like the guide says but I've only been able to reach 2.6k HP.

Got any tips? Thanks.

from what i can see from your gear you're missing a chunk of life from your belt and chest, i levelled life based with a 1h wand and shield and the wand i currently have is still the same wand from lvl 53. getting a shield with high life will help and helm should be able to get a cheapish one with over 100 life on it resists can be evened when buying the shield.

i never bothered picking up the piercing shots cluster while leveling coz i went straight BL on a 6l tabby and your tree is pretty close to discipline and training which will help alot. my life based i was only at 2.8k hp which took me to t7-t8 maps before i had enough currency to transition to LL.

hope it helps

Yeah, to be honest I don't really know enough about builds so when a build guide doesn't explicitly tell me what to do, I start trying to figure things out on my own and obviously in this case it didn't work out at all, lol.

Could you please tell me what to do? Switch one of the wands for a shield and craft a +1 Lightning spells wand on my own?

That’s a fair point, and I actually recommend everyone try stuff on their own (hindsight is 20/20, 35c is not a big deal to lose it just wouldn’ve been nice to save.) To be fair, I’m short on time at the moment, a lot going on in life and I’ve tried to actually play the new league when I have free time. The leveling guide and entry mapping/red mapping sections were literally finished days before league start so some more extensive testing can help them a lot. I’ll try to work on those today. In the meantime, there are goals in the red mapping section that you should be working on from the time you start mapping, for example:

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‣ Self crafted wands with +1 to all Lightning Spells and Lightning Damage to Spells or Crit to Spells (normal wand + 40% total quality “lightning” 2 or more gems sold to vendor gives a magic +1 to all Lightning spell base, bench craft and/or regal orb to get the rest)

We’ve just established there’s a confliction with +lightning damage to spells and EE so I’ll update this and remove that option.

so with the tests that i did UNLESS im just dumb or blind, the added spell dmg to my weapon/HoT all contribute to armageddon brand which makes it deal fire/lightning dmg so im only getting a vulnerable to cold.

this setup has pondered the thought of a double call of the brotherhood setup and replacing the ee ring with ee on the tree since its just there, but im yet to test that far