Will Ultimatum Become a Core Game Mechanic?

"We would want to improve the combat of Ultimatum encounters so that the experience is less overwhelming and more tactical. While we do like things to be challenging, we currently feel that there are too many monsters spawning within the tight space of the circle and too many things going on at once."

I don't think I've seen anything from GGG that lacks self awareness to the degree of these two sentences. You guys do nothing but make content "overwhelming." Heist is still a clusterfuck of infinite rare mobs layering their auras. There hasn't been tactical combat in this game for YEARS, it's been nothing but overwhelm-or-be-overwhelmed. If you wanted to actually do as you say, you'd stop throwing infinite mob swarms at us.

I had my worst league ever in ultimatum. Crashs, lag, fps spikes...

died at 96, 97 and finally died at 99 IN A ULTIMATUM ENCOUNTER LAG and holy moly, I was done.

Hopefully next league I have some PERFORMANCE back.

fix lag and FPS GGG, holy moly.

I loved this mechanic.
Ppl complaining are weaklings that cant tank 1 blow without exploding onto millon pieces.

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bdojulics wrote:

I loved this mechanic.
Ppl complaining are weaklings that cant tank 1 blow without exploding onto millon pieces.

Bad troll attempt 0 challenge boy.

Okey, ultimatum won't go core, but what about unique items? Mahuxotl's Machination will be unobtainable?

Thank god. And hope it never returns. What a waste of a league. A reskinned Ritual catering only to those that get their jollies out of gambling. You want to gamble, go to a casino. Worst league I have played since Metamorph. First league actually since Metamorph that got me so bored I checked out mid mapping. (Harvest kinda done the same but I stuck around for longer at least there as it had some op and interesting crafting in it)...

Part of me hopes and wishes it was just a silly reskin so you guys can work more on PoE 2. At which point, rehash as many leagues as you want and reskin them all day long if it means it will speed up the process to PoE2. THAT should be the priority now.

Its been 1.5 years since the reveal, the new mechanics it will bring are already starting to feel old news. Focus most of your resources there.

Saw some comments btw of people comparing this to Heist, along the lines of "Heist made it in but this wont?"........

Of course Heist made it in. Heist was awesome. Despite the fact that the half of you ruined around 50% of its mechanics with your feedback, it is still an awesome league. Awesome idea. A mini mapping end game. With cool stories and an entire theme to it. What is Ultimatum other than scaterred circles in your maps were you "risk your items to get more items or none"... And some are comparing the two?

Seriously. I don't get this community. You whine the game is going too fast, then complain when they slow it down, and then complain again after they take your feedback saying "Heist now is just rushing to kill things again".. What on earth do you want? Make up your minds? Early complaints that you needed specific "side-kicks" in heist for specific tasks, then complaining once they changed it that your picks are pointless. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.

I swear most of the choices ruining this game are from backwards feedback. Including the drop in performance. Now we have rigs that don't use up the full power of their resources to load the game up and cache it properly because a bunch of whiners that are running on coal rigs complained the game was too heavy for their rigs.... Get better rigs, or sod off.

Wow, I have never been less excited about a new league coming than I am now.

And I don't blame GGG at all. They are just taking your backward feedback. All the while half the time having the half of you complain they are not taking feedback all the same xD

It really is one ironically hilarious situation.

if it does go core, many things need to be fixed first.

the only announcement i want to see is that the next league will be delayed so some actual game issues will be fixed. game has been around long enough that many of these issues should no longer exist.

oh, and GGG should interact more with their players. at least communicate with them instead of just dumping MTX announcements and collecting the money for a broken product.

oops... the edit made a second post. so editing this one as a null post.

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AkuTenshiiZero wrote:

"We would want to improve the combat of Ultimatum encounters so that the experience is less overwhelming and more tactical. While we do like things to be challenging, we currently feel that there are too many monsters spawning within the tight space of the circle and too many things going on at once."

I don't think I've seen anything from GGG that lacks self awareness to the degree of these two sentences. You guys do nothing but make content "overwhelming." Heist is still a clusterfuck of infinite rare mobs layering their auras. There hasn't been tactical combat in this game for YEARS, it's been nothing but overwhelm-or-be-overwhelmed. If you wanted to actually do as you say, you'd stop throwing infinite mob swarms at us.

Agreed. You can thank the feedback for all that. Soon as they go for something more tactical people whine they can't rush through maps anymore.

The whole point of Heist initially was to bring the new stealth/awareness/blind mechanics into play as well, and at first was more tactical and a quick rush to get out before they kill you. It quickly became a whinefest so they started changing things over and over again making each mechanic in it pointless to turn them into mini-maps people would just go into to exploit the endless mobs for xp. And viola, they nerfed that too making xp farming in there not possible either.

If anyone is to blame its this insane community that has zero clue of wtf it wants. One seconds its asking for one thing, then complains when it gets it for something else. "Game is too fast"... "Game is too slow"..."Game is too easy"... "You nerfed my build to the ground and I am getting one shot from nowhere, we wanted hard but not silly"... Yeah, you try balancing 100+ build possibilities without it scaling to the point where the only thing that wont feel EEEZZZ to some flexers out there is that one shot that passes through all other defense layers. (Another whole topic of its own... They meta build or run around with 200ex characters and then have the audacity to call the game ez)

And GGG are simply having a beer laughing at the feedback like "ok, sure, we'll change this mechanic, why not. Ok, sure, you want harder? Well why spawn bosses in succession in Maven, lets overwhelm you" xD

Then they sit and say they don't want to overwhelm the players. They might not want to, but the players are asking for it all the same, and they listen to the feedback going in that direction regardless.

Irony doesn't begin to cover the half of it.

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spaceace7373 wrote:

if it does go core, many things need to be fixed first.

the only announcement i want to see is that the next league will be delayed so some actual game issues will be fixed. game has been around long enough that many of these issues should no longer exist.

oh, and GGG should interact more with their players. at least communicate with them instead of just dumping MTX announcements and collecting the money for a broken product.

They do communicate. They take feedback. Clearly. And that is why we are in the shtshow we are atm. People think "take the players feedbaaaack, communicate with theeeem" solves all problems. Yeah, most players have zero clue wtf is going on or what they want. One second complaining the game is too fast, one second too slow a league so speed it up, one second the game is too ez, when they rev amp it the game is overwhelming, and on the shtshow goes.

yes yes, communicating with players, that will save us.
Its the very thing that has gotten PoE on a downward slope for the last year and more. Player feedback.

Every league, I swear, every league. Even Delirium, "turn off the timeeeer!" Then wtf is the point to delirium orbs mate?

I don't even anymore.