isnt it about time we got rid of the Labarynth Ascencion requirements???

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Sadaukar wrote:

GGG doesn't force u to do any content u don't want to do at all.
If u don't wanna run Delve, buy the fossils and resonators. If u don't wanna do Lab, buy a lab runner service (boost).

If u choose to do it on ur own, u forced urself into that content.

Buying a boost is still forcing you to do content you don't want to do -_- you can't just buy a boost and not run lab.....

I like ascension, it's a benchmark for your character.

did you build enough defences, or just offence.

it's a challenge and it provides alot of power for your character when you complete it.

i think its good and should stay in the game

Takes barely any time every 3 months, stop crying. Nothing is stopping you from playing non-ascendend specs to 100 if you late lab that much.

The lie that it only takes 10 minutes to run lab is but one example of the false information being peddled.

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Turtledove wrote:

The lie that it only takes 10 minutes to run lab is but one example of the false information being peddled.

It's not a lie of you wait till power and speed catch up with content. I used to wait until like lvl 60 to do them all at once/in a row back when playing hc. First of all made trials lightning fast compared to doing them in act 1 at level whatever second no chance of death with fat healthpool, resits maxed, correct flasks etc.

Did GGG not Officially State that Lab WILL... be getting removed in PoE2?

Lab is one of the fairly intuitive mechanics in the game
1. trials are tutorial for lab
2. trials are handled as quest
3. the difficulty is fairly well paced (and the length after the changes)

for PoE2, I think they only mentioned in the PoE2 Campaign you will have different way of ascending (maybe different trials, probably some changes to endgame lab will also happen)

What would be nice is to skip labs 1+2 if you do just merciless. Don't adjust the difficulty, keep there the option to do every lab, but I don't see the need to be restricted if my char power is good enough to just rush to 45 and do cruel lab directly.

Keep the trials tho.

I don't know what you mean by "difficulty is fair paced". It's easy as spit until you get to a spot that kills you outright.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

I don't know what you mean by "difficulty is fair paced". It's easy as spit until you get to a spot that kills you outright.

mostly about expected damage on the level / time spent on the fight.
Sure, you can fuck up and get hit by slam or wave and die. Doing first lab with around 900 hp, second with 1200 , third 2000 , usually can take a normal hit, but not skill damage.

I think a solid change at least for making Alts would be that after you have completed all 4 labs on your first character you can complete just Uber Lab and get all 8 points in a single run. Or run Merciless Lab and get 6 points if your character isn't quite strong enough for Uber Lab with no Ascendancy then run Uber and that's only 2 runs to get all 8 points. The first 2 and even 3 labs are just a time sink anyway at this point especially if you wait till maps before doing them. And even Uber Lab these days is pretty damn easy if you know what you are doing and put together a fairly decent character.

And this is already a thing for characters in STD made before Ascendancy was added to the game to where you complete Uber Lab and get all 8 points anyway so its not something that would even be difficult to add to the game either.