(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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dio8 wrote:

Decided to league start with this, has been great so far. Recently got to red maps, and I started getting randomly one shot by ultimatums and sometimes getting my 8k mana get ripped through by some packs and bosses occasionally. What would you recommend doing? I dont have much life on my rares, and was planning to swap to an atziris foible when I get enough currency. Should I drop a sceptre for a shield, maybe save for replica mistwall? If so, which sceptre? Last thing, sorry for lots of questions, also some may be self explanatory but never played a mana based build nor do I have many hours in the game and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

What's your evasion rating in your hideout? I suspect it's not enough - you are running pure energy shield boots and gloves, and Agnostic sets that to zero. Your mana flask has the right prefix, but the suffix is useless, again, due to Agnostic.

Pulled up your character in Path of Building... I think you went overboard on Mana and missed life. Cloak of Defiance gives you 40% MoM. Ideally, if someone hit you really hard with a single shot, it would eat all your mana and all your life - so you should have an effective life pool of both of them put together, in your case, 2588 life and 8264 mana, total of 10,852. (this isn't technically the ideal case, as you're constantly using your mana to cast spells, so you actually need some extra padding there, but for the sake of this example...)

However, if you took a total of 10k damage, it's split 60:40, so 6k life, and 4k mana. So you're dead, 'cause you only have 2.5k life. With your current setup, you can take a hit of 4,313 damage. At 4,314, you will be dead, and you'll still have over 6k mana left.

Think of it this way - every 6 points of life you gain, actually gives you 10 points of effective life.

So, IMHO, you need boots with a decent life roll, gloves with life, a ring with life, an amulet with better life than that, don't skip Thick Skin, Heart of Oak, and the Evasion / Life nodes at the start on the tree.

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Dababa wrote:

Just want to say I'm really enjoying this build. Thanks for the effort you've put into it and the responses you've given throughout the thread, they've helped me in my progression a lot!

glad i could help :)

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dio8 wrote:

Decided to league start with this, has been great so far. Recently got to red maps, and I started getting randomly one shot by ultimatums and sometimes getting my 8k mana get ripped through by some packs and bosses occasionally. What would you recommend doing? I dont have much life on my rares, and was planning to swap to an atziris foible when I get enough currency. Should I drop a sceptre for a shield, maybe save for replica mistwall? If so, which sceptre? Last thing, sorry for lots of questions, also some may be self explanatory but never played a mana based build nor do I have many hours in the game and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

the next step at this point would be swapping to a solid shield spell block>mana>spell damage>Life and picking up a Rumi's or Taste of hate. The other option is to drop your life flask for a taste and ur basalt for a rumis, read the flask section in the guide for a better understanding. Try to make sure fortify and endurance charges are AKWAYS up via enduring cry or a more cozy option would be minimum endurance charges on jewelry. Also it's about time you start picking up chaos resistance as this may be what is wrecking you. Keep in mind your #1 enemy is phys damage followed by chaos, you will NEVER die to ele damage unless you're critically low on mana and arcane cloak isn't up. Get more better life rolls as well, can also look at giving a shaper chest which gives 15% MoM effect.

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BlessMe1 wrote:

is it a good mana flask? gonna buy it following the guide in pob

no, its not eternal it's divine which is not good. Also please don't buy flasks, they're so easy to roll with bestiary and alterations.

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UkoCyanide wrote:

Really strong build, I reached T14 maps with 2 1c scepters and realized the damage is too low and its time for me to get better items. what's the most important stats for sceter? is Atziri's Foible a good choice of amulet?

mana>spell damage/lightning damage>cast speed> lightning as chaos

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UkoCyanide wrote:

Really strong build, I reached T14 maps with 2 1c scepters and realized the damage is too low and its time for me to get better items. what's the most important stats for sceter? is Atziri's Foible a good choice of amulet?

Foible is good yes, just don't forget to annoint it.

Hey its saying the POB not working says its using an unrecognized skill tree

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thostin wrote:

Hey its saying the POB not working says its using an unrecognized skill tree

You have to use the community version of POB

i.e. https://github.com/PathOfBuildingCommunity/PathOfBuilding/releases/tag/v2.1.0

Currently rank 5 raider in SSF SC using this guide as a starting point (rank 1-4 being TR/CA builds), thank you! One modification I made today that boosts damage by a decent chunk (from 68k avg hit to 86k), is running a double trinity setup. Trinity->Flame Dash->Combustion->Second Wind, and also swap out Lightning Pen on your BB for Trinity. Its less braindead to play than the LightPen setup, but once you get the hang of it there are only a few scenarios where you aren't able to reliably maintain max resonance of all 3 elements (blight encounters, heist, and bosses that limit your mobility like Veritania where you can't always flame dash through her into your sigil).

Probably not viable once you have essence worm and wrath, but works great with ssf dumpster gear. If any of you want to try it, make sure to PoB it first and verify under Calcs section that your flame dash hit damage from fire w/ your actual gem levels is consistently higher than lightning (set sigil to 0 stages first since you can easily dash from outside the sigil into the sigil, straddling the border to not add light dmg to the dash itself).

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ChemistHCSSF wrote:

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BlessMe1 wrote:

is it a good mana flask? gonna buy it following the guide in pob

no, its not eternal it's divine which is not good. Also please don't buy flasks, they're so easy to roll with bestiary and alterations.

About that, do you have some ressource i could use to know how to craft this flask ? Or some tips. I'm not a poe veteran so i miss a lot of information :p