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What's the point when they have control of the game outside of the Chinese version?

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RandallPOE wrote:

What's the point when they have control of the game outside of the Chinese version?

I guess it would be mainly autonomy. I bet Chris and the rest of them would love to have that back. I know I would.

The operatingsystem Earth1.0 doesn´t work this way.
Big companies, many hands to feed, global marketreach, many hands to shake.
Small company, Chris sitting in his garage developing PoE2 for himself completely independant.

If you could switch out one of your disliked investors, whom exactly would you replace him with and are you sure it wouldn´t be worse ?
Beeing bought out by a Megacorp somewhat belongs to the natural progression, its not always just money-reasons.

Maybe you missed the crowdfunding-stage, but we are in established product territory.

In my opinion the green footsteps and red bubblepet brought the least to the table. Still can´t blame a man for trying.

The idea is probably completely unreasonable. The money that Tencent paid for GGG was distributed amongst the owners of GGG. The price has gone up. Where is the money supposed to come from to buy it? They have a nice nest egg or house or mansion or whatever now. Probably all have nice salaries now. Why would Chris and company even want to buy it back?

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Turtledove wrote:

The idea is probably completely unreasonable. The money that Tencent paid for GGG was distributed amongst the owners of GGG. The price has gone up. Where is the money supposed to come from to buy it? They have a nice nest egg or house or mansion or whatever now. Probably all have nice salaries now. Why would Chris and company even want to buy it back?

OMG STOP IT WITH THE LOGIC DUDE. Do you enjoy ruining people's fantasies and dreams or something?

They can't.

if they could it is reasonable to assume they would be entitled to a much larger portion of the revenue they generate.

Munny

While I appreciate all the responses and opinions, I'd like to hear from people who believe this can happen, somehow. I was hoping for more comments regarding ways it can actually happen. Comments about how it can't happen are definitely welcome, too. Of course, this whole thing is purely hypothetical.

And here I thought Turtledove's response would suffice. Seems we need to be a little less...gentle about this. So be it.

You've been given a perfectly valid conclusion: GGG cannot 'buy itself back', even if they 'should'. And frankly, from a business perspective, they almost certainly absolutely shouldn't. The vast majority (if not all) of the sale money went to private investors who got exactly what they wanted: insanely high ROI. The ROI on GGG was nothing short of miraculous. From a business perspective, GGG won the game. GGG started tiny, grew immensely, and got bought out for a fucking trucktonne of cash WITHOUT losing the majority of its core staff or control over its product. That is something you almost NEVER see in business.

And buy itself back with what? You think they have ~100m USD just lying around? As I said, most of the money from the sale went to private investors, and they know they got as good as anyone could hope to get. They'd be utter fools to buy back into a business AFTER making a ROI like that.

"Of course, the whole thing is purely hypothetical" seems a bit like backpedaling to me. You brought up crowd funding and said 'it can be done' which indicates to me you weren't being hypothetical at all. As someone with a fair bit of experience in crowd funding, I'm just going to say it can't be done. Because that 100m figure? That was the value of the company a few years ago, according to Tencent Holdings. I'm willing to bet they wouldn't let it go for the same price. GGG raised probably not much less than $10m during its beta from crowdfunding and goodwill -- and their reputation is a LOT less untarnished now than then. It is nothing short of ridiculous to suggest they could crowdfund the purchase of their own company back from Tencent.

Asking for validation of your opinion after it's been all but shown as, at best, fanciful and, more brutally, unrealistic and naive seems...self-defeating and self-deluded.

Unless validation of your opinion is all you wanted, in which case...I dunno, get less untenable opinions?

TL;DR Tencent owns GGG, and always will unless someone with even more money and desire for GGG comes along and even then they'd need to have at least as good terms regarding GGG's staff security and relative operational independence. This is extremely unlikely. Please just accept that.