3.14 Commander Long Worm - The Mana Minion Mass Summoner Summer Mix | Army of 82 minions | 550k ehp

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nooq wrote:

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Chromino wrote:

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nooq wrote:

Hey mate, I am a little confused about your two build variants for HoA Guardian. Are they the same and one is more up to date than the other or are they different?
If they are different, what exactly is the difference?

Sorry if I'm being stuipd but I can't figure it out.

This build here ist newer, but mainly interesting when you want a mass-summoner with 80 minions. It's fast for mapping and fun to play. I wanted to add a mass-summoner Guardian build, when you not want a necro mass-summoner again, with high defences.

The other build "Arachnophobia Allstars" is optimized much more in damage and in defences for all content like bossing, Delirium, Maven, etc. with 21 to 32 Minions. It reaches more damage and ehp and is different in skills and ring, but like a twinbuild with much the same set-up. Both are updated, the other ist the original and mainbuild.

For a mass of minions take this variant, for all other content take the other original build.

Appreciate your reply greatly! Out of curiosity, which one will you go for for league start?

Hehe, thank you a lot.

I am not sure in the moment for my leaguestart, I arrive after working & travelling a few days later at home & desktop pc and perhaps want to build up and try out a gladiator with Herald of Agony again and full block. In skills probably it will miss a bit optimization, but will get interesting with another ascendancy.

I would go for league and leaguestart with the original build "The Arachnophobia Agonyca Allstars" and switch the other minions only for variety and alternation in, yeah!

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Hbgsmokesalot wrote:

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Chromino wrote:

+++ Magic Mana Minion Mass Summoner Mix +++ 82 minions filling & cleaning your screen +++ full defences managuardian CI +++ 2400 es/ block +++ 120000 armour +++ 90% pdr +++


CONTRA



You have to take passive tree points instead the clusters before you are full geared in endgame.

Do you have a PoB for these stages?

In the very first days of leaguestart the ring "circle of nostalgia" is often expensive. You can get the ring without HoA damage and only with reduced mana reservation often cheaper, but you can also take the following trees for leaguestart instead with discord artisan and only easy to get or craft basic cluster jewels.

PoB I don't have and will add later, but I have screenshots for levelling.


Level 83 without circle of nostalgia or uncompromising cluster, with discord artisan instead:




Level 88, Leaguestart with only basic small or medium clusters:



In the spoiler "Beginning, levelling, gearing and Leaguestart" you will find all alternatives for each slot and the levelling trees too.

Perfect, thank you.

Hi,

Just started this build after switching over from another build that I didn't end up liking. So as such, I pretty much spent all my currency and now that I am using this build, I am doing so little damage that I can't even kill act 10 mobs...

Can you look at my profile and see what exactly I am missing? Right now, I am doing 0 damage and can barely kill mobs

Much appreciated.

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EternalDoge wrote:

Hi,

Just started this build after switching over from another build that I didn't end up liking. So as such, I pretty much spent all my currency and now that I am using this build, I am doing so little damage that I can't even kill act 10 mobs...

Can you look at my profile and see what exactly I am missing? Right now, I am doing 0 damage and can barely kill mobs

Much appreciated.

Hi Entertal Dodge,

you need a chance to poison and added chaos damage somewhere on your gear to get virulences. The virulences raise the damage of your Herald of Agony. The scorpion does 60% of the damage.

1) get circle of nostalgia:

Solely with 20% less mana reserved around 15 chaos: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/kPvnLns5

with HoA damage around 2 exalt: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/lgOrPX0TV

or 2) change "poison support" to "lesser poison support" linked to your ball-lightning

That should help a lot. You are missing a lot gear, it's getting in these trade days much cheaper.

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Chromino wrote:

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EternalDoge wrote:

Hi,

Just started this build after switching over from another build that I didn't end up liking. So as such, I pretty much spent all my currency and now that I am using this build, I am doing so little damage that I can't even kill act 10 mobs...

Can you look at my profile and see what exactly I am missing? Right now, I am doing 0 damage and can barely kill mobs

Much appreciated.

Hi Entertal Dodge,

you need a chance to poison and added chaos damage somewhere on your gear to get virulences. The virulences raise the damage of your Herald of Agony. The scorpion does 60% of the damage.

1) get circle of nostalgia:

Solely with 20% less mana reserved around 15 chaos: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/kPvnLns5

with HoA damage around 2 exalt: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/lgOrPX0TV

or 2) change "poison support" to "lesser poison support" linked to your ball-lightning

That should help a lot. You are missing a lot gear, it's getting in these trade days much cheaper.

Thanks for the tips. I see the agony crawler summoned now, but I still do no damage haha. What do you think I can get that would increase my damage a decent amount amount (at least enough to do act 10 / tier 1 or 2 maps) with minimal amount of currency investment (probably only have like 10c max I can spare at the moment after switching to this build). I'm kind of at a stand still right now since I can't farm with this damage

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EternalDoge wrote:

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Chromino wrote:

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EternalDoge wrote:

Hi,

Just started this build after switching over from another build that I didn't end up liking. So as such, I pretty much spent all my currency and now that I am using this build, I am doing so little damage that I can't even kill act 10 mobs...

Can you look at my profile and see what exactly I am missing? Right now, I am doing 0 damage and can barely kill mobs

Much appreciated.

Hi Entertal Dodge,

you need a chance to poison and added chaos damage somewhere on your gear to get virulences. The virulences raise the damage of your Herald of Agony. The scorpion does 60% of the damage.

1) get circle of nostalgia:

Solely with 20% less mana reserved around 15 chaos: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/kPvnLns5

with HoA damage around 2 exalt: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/lgOrPX0TV

or 2) change "poison support" to "lesser poison support" linked to your ball-lightning

That should help a lot. You are missing a lot gear, it's getting in these trade days much cheaper.

Thanks for the tips. I see the agony crawler summoned now, but I still do no damage haha. What do you think I can get that would increase my damage a decent amount amount (at least enough to do act 10 / tier 1 or 2 maps) with minimal amount of currency investment (probably only have like 10c max I can spare at the moment after switching to this build). I'm kind of at a stand still right now since I can't farm with this damage

Hi EternalDoge,

you are missing a lot gear and levels.

In these days of trade and league good and not expensive gear-upgrades are:

Start with rainbow stride conjurer boots, 6% spellblock and high energyshield, 1 chaos:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/j9DWTX

1) Skin of the loyals, 5 correct socket colours around 20 chaos:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/rRMQvRCQ

Best balanced 30 chaos:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/jYJg2XhX


2) get a stygian belt with es, lightning/ cold resistance, mana (or dex), eventually empty modifiers to craft

with mana around 2 chaos:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/E9YQJ3ZI5

With armour around 10 chaos:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/zMjWGjvC4


3) get a circle of nostalgia:

only with 20% less mana reserved around 10 chaos each: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/kPvnLns5

with HoA damage 1.2 exalt today: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/lgOrPX0TV

- with the circle of nostalgia change lesser poison to poison support

4) For blocking, as long as you don't have the blue nightmare, get rumi's concoction granite flask 35 chaos or beastcraft it (unique flask recipe) in Einhar's menagerie:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/Z6o8CQ

- you can benefit only 1x from +3000 armour, change the other granite flask for jade, stibnite or a flask you prefer

In level 60-80 it's not easy, just get some levels. With a bit currency you can make big improvements. In the spoiler "Tipps for levelling" are a lot more alternatives for cheap starting gear.

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Thanks! I appreciate all the help you provided. I'll look into these things more once I level my gems up a bit.

@tmmt yeah, I've never really had issues with gems being low level with any other build I've followed before regardless of whatever level I was so this was a surprise. I will try to level them up a bit and see how it is then