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awesome999 wrote:
The government is your protector. It is Part of a government's function is to protect its citizens, you can be also be stripped of your rights when you break the law; upholding the law and order is also the government's function. The government can also restrict your rights and liberty to protect the public and ensure rules and regulations are follows.
If you are saying the law is a form of Coercion, it certainly is. The Coercion that protect you is same threats or intimidation that comply you to follow the law the society demand of you.
You seemingly want the cake and eat it too. Doing something people deem harmful but wish to suffer no negative effect. That isn't being reasonable and realistic.
do you realize that everything you just said pertains to injecting a substance into your bloodstream?
slightly different decision, to not parttake in an experimental medical treatment, than to willingly commit a crime against someone else
especially considering it isnt illegal, yet, to refuse an injection.
you seem to want to pass off all responsibility onto a government entity. have fun with that
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Posted byxMustard#3403on Nov 5, 2021, 8:11:41 PM
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"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Nov 5, 2021, 9:06:53 PM
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Posted byDarthSki44#6905on Nov 5, 2021, 9:06:41 PMOn Probation
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xMustard wrote:
do you realize that everything you just said pertains to injecting a substance into your bloodstream?
slightly different decision, to not parttake in an experimental medical treatment, than to willingly commit a crime against someone else
especially considering it isnt illegal, yet, to refuse an injection.
you seem to want to pass off all responsibility onto a government entity. have fun with that
LOL. You do you. Enjoy your privileges to be unvaccinated, while I enjoy my privileges for the vaccinated.
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Posted byawesome999#2945on Nov 6, 2021, 7:16:36 AM
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Im pretty stoked at our vax numbers here
I guess when you make it a case of vax or stay home most people get over their "open mindedness" real fucking quick.
Loving the return to normal life. Still seeing masks everywhere indoors but that aside it's been lots of movies, shopping, and just general positive energy whenever we go out. Random vax checks in shops just make my day.
We did the right thing for almost 2 years. This is OUR TIME. Our due.
It might be temporary, but for now, life is close enough to what it was to be savoured.
Anyway off out again. Tata.
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.
Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
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Posted byForeverhappychan#4626on Nov 7, 2021, 6:22:06 PMAlpha Member
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Kellog wrote:
There are some really really stupid people in this thread. All these moronic anti-vaxers that get their 'facts' from Facebook make me worried for the world. Thank god these idiots weren't alive when the Polio or smallpox vaccines were being developed.
These nutjobs are in the same category as those who believe the world is run by lizards and that JFK is going to return from the dead to campaign with Trump for 2024. They're just more dangerous.
Stupid, irresponsible, uncaring and inconsiderate.
Ireland has 99.5% vaccinated yet they are the leaders in cases in the world.
Vermont is the #1 % in the USA, yet they have the highest %.
How do you explain that? [Removed by Support]
Polio and smallpox are actual vaccines, aka you take them and cannot get them.
How do you define the covid vacc as a vaccine when it doesnt prevent infection or the spread of it??
You accuse people of talking points when thats all your topic is (reinforced with fear mongering)
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Posted byChadwixx#5277on Nov 8, 2021, 4:57:51 PM
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Chadwixx wrote:
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Kellog wrote:
There are some really really stupid people in this thread. All these moronic anti-vaxers that get their 'facts' from Facebook make me worried for the world. Thank god these idiots weren't alive when the Polio or smallpox vaccines were being developed.
These nutjobs are in the same category as those who believe the world is run by lizards and that JFK is going to return from the dead to campaign with Trump for 2024. They're just more dangerous.
Stupid, irresponsible, uncaring and inconsiderate.
Ireland has 99.5% vaccinated yet they are the leaders in cases in the world.
Vermont is the #1 % in the USA, yet they have the highest %.
How do you explain that? I dont think you realize how uneducated you sound on the topic.
Polio and smallpox are actual vaccines, aka you take them and cannot get them.
How do you define the covid vacc as a vaccine when it doesnt prevent infection or the spread of it??
You accuse people of talking points when thats all your topic is (reinforced with fear mongering)
Ok bro this is a beyond ridiculous post, both uneducated, and so grossly untrue I don't know what to even say. You could have checked this before embarrassing yourself at a minimum, and spreading potential harmful info at worst.
I don't know what the fuck "actual vaccine" means. The absolute best you can get is around 95% efficacy for Smallpox, and after 3 rounds of vaccinations for Polio you can get somewhere around 99% depending on type of vaccine. The reason people think there is total immunity is because there are virtually no cases to catch. This is called herd immunity, which is separate from vaccination, but is related in terms of disease spread.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/hcp/effectiveness-duration-protection.html
https://www.cdc.gov/smallpox/vaccine-basics/index.html
Ireland is around 75%. C'mon.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=OWID_WRL
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/ireland/
Vermont is indeed number one in the US. At a rate of 71.66%, but keep in mind this is one of the smallest states in the entire country. That 71.66% represents around 450,000 people. Just for some perspective, New York City is just shy of 9 MILLION PEOPLE by itself. Not even close to highest COVID rate.
Vaccination percentage:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-population-vaccinated-march-15.html
COVID Cases per capita:
https://dailyvoice.com/connecticut/greenwich/news/covid-19-these-states-have-highest-lowest-case-rates-to-start-november/819529/
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln Last edited by DarthSki44#6905 on Nov 8, 2021, 5:30:59 PM
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Posted byDarthSki44#6905on Nov 8, 2021, 5:30:05 PMOn Probation
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Chadwixx wrote:
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Kellog wrote:
There are some really really stupid people in this thread. All these moronic anti-vaxers that get their 'facts' from Facebook make me worried for the world. Thank god these idiots weren't alive when the Polio or smallpox vaccines were being developed.
These nutjobs are in the same category as those who believe the world is run by lizards and that JFK is going to return from the dead to campaign with Trump for 2024. They're just more dangerous.
Stupid, irresponsible, uncaring and inconsiderate.
Ireland has 99.5% vaccinated yet they are the leaders in cases in the world.
Vermont is the #1 % in the USA, yet they have the highest %.
How do you explain that? I dont think you realize how uneducated you sound on the topic.
Polio and smallpox are actual vaccines, aka you take them and cannot get them.
How do you define the covid vacc as a vaccine when it doesnt prevent infection or the spread of it??
You accuse people of talking points when thats all your topic is (reinforced with fear mongering)
I don't think you understand what a vaccine is. I also don't believe you have any idea about why the two locations you've mentioned are seeing spikes.
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Posted byKellog#5737on Nov 8, 2021, 5:43:27 PM
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Kellog wrote:
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Chadwixx wrote:
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Kellog wrote:
There are some really really stupid people in this thread. All these moronic anti-vaxers that get their 'facts' from Facebook make me worried for the world. Thank god these idiots weren't alive when the Polio or smallpox vaccines were being developed.
These nutjobs are in the same category as those who believe the world is run by lizards and that JFK is going to return from the dead to campaign with Trump for 2024. They're just more dangerous.
Stupid, irresponsible, uncaring and inconsiderate.
Ireland has 99.5% vaccinated yet they are the leaders in cases in the world.
Vermont is the #1 % in the USA, yet they have the highest %.
How do you explain that? I dont think you realize how uneducated you sound on the topic.
Polio and smallpox are actual vaccines, aka you take them and cannot get them.
How do you define the covid vacc as a vaccine when it doesnt prevent infection or the spread of it??
You accuse people of talking points when thats all your topic is (reinforced with fear mongering)
I don't think you understand what a vaccine is. I also don't believe you have any idea about why the two locations you've mentioned are seeing spikes.
"OK bro" followed with a CDC link = lmao
https://nextstrain.org/ncov/gisaid/global
"I don't think you understand what a vaccine is. I also don't believe you have any idea about why the two locations you've mentioned are seeing spikes."
Please explain why they are spiking.
You two both start a lot of statements with "I dont think".
Meanwhile Florida is the number 1 state in the USA, we went against what the "experts" said and look what happened.
Everything you have been told is now false
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Posted byChadwixx#5277on Nov 8, 2021, 6:19:26 PM
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Chadwixx wrote:
Everything you have been told is now false
Exactly what I refereed to in my earlier post about loons getting their 'facts' from Crazy Karen's` Facebook page.
BTW, there are some clues in the link you posted, maybe try understanding the real science.
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Posted byKellog#5737on Nov 8, 2021, 6:34:05 PM
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haha damn one year later and some people still don't understand what the Covid-19 vaccines are. Its good though. More anti-vaxxers = less anti-vaxxers in the long run
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Posted byJohny_Snow#4778on Nov 8, 2021, 6:35:29 PM
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