[3.14] Dejuvenate's Flameslinger Elementalist. Best League starter and unethical clear speed

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Cry0nicS wrote:

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Turska wrote:

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omniocean wrote:

P.S - you should put this in your guide, if using KB with Combustion DO NOT LEVEL WoC, if WoC deals higher fire damage it will overwrite the ignite from KB and we lose the Combustion bonus.

How is this achieved? My lvl 1 WoC seems to be doing 3x the fire damage of Kinetic Blast.

I think it's not about the total damage of WoC vs total damage of KB. But the 3 types of damage WoC deals.
I also have the same problem, currently. With a level 1 gem, fire is still the highest type of damage.

No, many ways to screw this up and I bet some folks unknowingly took out their combustion debuff. Note 3 values:


A = KB fire component

One thing to remember, your KBs pass thru FW, so they get the additional fire tagged onto them (78-117 added fire dmg at lvl 20 flamewall).

So our jobs are actually easier than you think.


Next, WOC exposes an element it does most damage of. So if you do 100 lightning and 90 fire and 30 cold, you will expose lightning instead.


B = WOC fire component

25% of physical from WOC is innately converted to fire. Take into account map mods having EE and accidental EE by your golem shooting thru EE. So just to be safe divide this number on your tooltip by 2.

C = WOC lightning component,

Some of you have +lightning to spell, so you cant just keep woc at lvl 1 and call it quits. Take into account accidental EE by your golem hitting thru flamewall and map mods having EE. so just to be safe multiply the tooltip by 2 or so.


If your B < C, you will expose lightning instead of fire (-25% lightning instead of -25% fire resist on target).

If your A < B, your WOC ignite will overwrite your KB-combustion debuff, so you lose combustion (-19% fire res on target).


So ideally you wanna balance the level of WOC, so your values become


A > B > C

A should be pretty high (dont forget to add additional fire to proj passing thru flamewall)

B should be ok too, since we have some, not a lot, of increased fire.

C is the tricky part. Look at your wand, jewel, ring, ammy, helm, or just check tooltip to ensure your B > C at all times.


The mechanics is kinda complex, which is why I love POE.

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perling wrote:

One Question , PoB says this flask is shit for this build?

Despair causes the mobs to take increased dot (actually more).

Terrible range for clear
And for bossing we need defensive flasks more than we do more dps (imo)


Then we also need to take/anoint additional curse. Flammability is far superior to despair

Killed a5 sirus essentially deathless, more than enough dps with 1 large cluster jewel kitted out. Seems good :)

My 1 death was because I flame dash buffered into a vortex lol

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P.S - you should put this in your guide, if using KB with Combustion DO NOT LEVEL WoC, if WoC deals higher fire damage it will overwrite the ignite from KB and we lose the Combustion bonus.

That is not how it works. Ignite can stack indefinitely, but only one stack will do damage at a time. It doesn't matter that an ignite from WoC "takes over" as the highest damage ignite - as long as your KB is igniting, you'll keep the Combustion bonus.

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Adamisgr8 wrote:

Killed a5 sirus essentially deathless, more than enough dps with 1 large cluster jewel kitted out. Seems good :)

My 1 death was because I flame dash buffered into a vortex lol

Noob question: how can you take malevolance?
My flamewall+slinger takes 56% mana, herald 19% and precision the rest.
I have 80%+ of my mana reserved without malevolance. Adding another 50% .... how? :) What did I miss?

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Tripartist1 wrote:

Just wanted to drop a gear update, build is super smooth, got it up to 4500hp, 3300 bubble, damn near max block, and just threw on a steelskin as well. Will probably be dropping the stun immunity for the blind I'm stacking now soon.

Cold snap in wand = frenzy generation, super nice. Overall this build is a great starting point and I really feel this can be pushed super hard. Already have PoBs pushing 6m sirius dps with insane regen (and insane investment), so will probably be sticking with this build til the end.

Spoiler

Your build is currently only doing 167k dps as per your character sheet POB. What's your POB for 6m dps?

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Drekalo wrote:

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Tripartist1 wrote:

Just wanted to drop a gear update, build is super smooth, got it up to 4500hp, 3300 bubble, damn near max block, and just threw on a steelskin as well. Will probably be dropping the stun immunity for the blind I'm stacking now soon.

Cold snap in wand = frenzy generation, super nice. Overall this build is a great starting point and I really feel this can be pushed super hard. Already have PoBs pushing 6m sirius dps with insane regen (and insane investment), so will probably be sticking with this build til the end.

Spoiler

Your build is currently only doing 167k dps as per your character sheet POB. What's your POB for 6m dps?

Someone knows if this works with mastermind of discord for -35% res?
It is new item and really hard to find such info.

And yeah, my pob does say like 500k damage and when i important my items and tree to his imported pob it shows up 2 million instead. Maybe just all possible debuffs are checked as true or something of that sort.

It is first time i use POB so i'm curious too.


Picture of my pob just importing, vs picture of loading in to his paste-bin


Every day i like this build more and more, so the dps is not that important, but i got some nice stuff so far.

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Cry0nicS wrote:

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Adamisgr8 wrote:

Killed a5 sirus essentially deathless, more than enough dps with 1 large cluster jewel kitted out. Seems good :)

My 1 death was because I flame dash buffered into a vortex lol

Noob question: how can you take malevolance?
My flamewall+slinger takes 56% mana, herald 19% and precision the rest.
I have 80%+ of my mana reserved without malevolance. Adding another 50% .... how? :) What did I miss?

Malevolence is only there to be levelled up, not actually using it haha. Thanks for reminding me, will probs swap it out for portal

guess i got lucky for a change.

Guy if you're running the build don't forget about infernal mantle, insanely cheap 6 link that boosts your damage by a lot! Maybe you could put it in the cheap items section. : )