[3.13] MOM & POP Skeletons - Strong at Bosses & Heists

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kallekofot wrote:
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BurningEarth wrote:
So I decided to do some more Elegant Hubris research for this build since I'm really enjoying it this season, here's what I found:

Let's start with the best one:

65640: 3x Axiom Warden, 1x Slum Lord (And one of the axioms is on Devotion, so great pathing here)



I checked trade for something like that one, weird enough i got one 65660.

NOT ONE MINION SKILL ON THAT JEWEL, i really hate that i dont know how they work.

The reason you got a different result is you got a jewel with a different number. As far as I know how it works is they're 100% RNG, so even though logically 65640 and 65660 sound like they should be close, they really aren't because they're two entirely different numbers according to the RNG system.

That's why I posted the specific numbers, because that's just how much getting one specific number on those jewels matters.
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Promaore wrote:
Minion damage on AG does nothing
If you have a free slot try phase run

If you wanna be more defensive can try anomalous arcane surge low lvl with hydrosphere and rearange ur setup
it will sustain mana


You can quality your jewellery (belt included) with catalyst
You can search for a corrupted belt with better implicit (or double corrupted)
Do it yourself if you want

You have a "raise zombi " alone in youre chest wtf


You can enchant youre boots i like the mana regen one but there are other good ones


Im lvling that gem, and all other gems in my off hands, 21-20 zombie is easy 2ex.
I have a maxed out chest but i simply cant six link it, used so many fusings its starting to get scary.

I know where i can get few upgrades like a better amulet with minion damage or +1 int gems, need to get new rings then to fix rez.
This build is now named MOM & POP Skeletons! :D

I tried running just 4300 life, everything was still doable but it was a bit squishier than I'd like. Brought it up to about 5300 and feeling a lot chonkier. Fettle Clusters are very worth.

BTW for upgrades, a +1 Amulet is a nice boost
Ele quality on Repl Siegebreaker is fairly cheap and worth
If you want a little more Life, an Anatomical Knowledge in the slot right above Elemental Equilibrium gives 200+, one with "You cannot be silenced" is real nice

I tried Bone Offering for a while and it seemed alright but couldn't tell if it was any better. It requires swapping Plaguebringer for Mistress of Sacrifice, which is a DPS loss. Plaguebringer has a nice 10% damage reduction for enemies if a corpse is nearby, and since you really don't need to use Blood Offering for boss fights you can just leave some corpses around.

btw new The Twisted video for the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QL6ckuK6yA
Last edited by therealtoothman#2453 on Feb 27, 2021, 10:53:06 AM
Sorry to double...

The Maven is DOWN! I have smelt her feeties. I know, took me forever. I've really slacked off this league. It was my first attempt.

Here is the embarrassing video where I barely manage to finish her off with my last portal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWXY4PzVfSE
My space pool management was terrible and I was not prepared to do the Memory Game when other hazards were all around. Damage and survivability felt more than sufficient. I took special attention to reduce Chill and Shock, and brought the usual 4 Mana Flasks. Life/Mana was at 5526/2531 (unreserved).

One other tip I'm adding to the guide is on Anomalous Predator Support for Skeles: it's BiS on paper, but realistically you'll want a convenient way to hit Hydrosphere and Signal Prey simultaneously... somehow...
Hello!
Great fight.

I noticed something strange btw: while your damage is top notch against the brain, damage on Maven isn't and felt pretty damn not on par.


I think youre skele explode too quick/ moves too slowly on this phase because how they work on messy aim situation:

They're summoned and stuck for 0.3sec, take dama immediately and explode too far from her because they don't have time to move to the target.

Saw this alot in the clip


reduces possibility to apply the ashes debuff also


Maybe try to solve this with " call to the slaughter " notable on cluster jewel so they run to death destination quicker

Or maybe its strange but i would try with only one earendel / without inf legion


EDIT: yep i think too much button to press for signal prey at this point X)atleast for me

EDIT 2: Don't try to link body armour yourself they're 20c
Last edited by Promaore#5998 on Feb 28, 2021, 9:43:43 AM
Sorry for doube post found out a pretty interesting interaction:




winter orb / desecrate / cast while channeling in the chest


This combination let you channel winter orb to desecrate & blood offering

You can add Hextouch + curse (ideally awak hextouch + double curse)
and will take care of elemental equilibrium

Orb stay over your head and continue applying debuff for a few seconds while you run

It's alot of QoL, just wanted to share obv hav a few drawbacks
One button for all is kindof cool


as you have to channel a bit, maybe from dust syncs better also
Just theory there


Last maybe try this with mistress of sacrifice

10% more Life Regeneration granted to Minions per corpse Consumed

is going to feel great on you as this channeling combo drains your life
maybe

Edit: Agnostic + blood offering buff and mistress of sac looks bnkers on paper


EDIT: Tested it ! TOTALLY GOOD!! Amazing QoL amazing regen!! Let me know how you feel about it!

LASTEDIT: As the buff defensive part depends on sacrified corpsed, level youre desecrate for this!!
Last edited by Promaore#5998 on Feb 28, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
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Promaore wrote:
I think youre skele explode too quick/ moves too slowly on this phase because how they work on messy aim situation:

They're summoned and stuck for 0.3sec, take dama immediately and explode too far from her because they don't have time to move to the target.
Yep yep, I think the main issue was keeping too much distance and bad space pool management. Gotta keep the floor clean to move freely, gotta keep close so AG can support and Skeles can always hit. It was a huge distraction during the Memory Game, too.

I'm aiming to get a deathless video up soon for the front page.
Another video A9 Sirus - was really hoping to make it deathless but I let myself get gibbed at the very end lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIuoLU2b7LA

Still uploading to show how doable it is even with mistakes

A couple specific tips are putting corpses down for Plaguebringer buffs, no need to use Offering the whole fight

Anytime you're moving around and minions might be taking storm damage, just cast a couple Skeles to heal them up from Life from Death passive
Last edited by therealtoothman#2453 on Mar 3, 2021, 7:12:39 PM
Hello
I really like the tanky setup of this build.
Do you think that it can handle Gauntlet mods HCSSF without unique weapons?
I dont wanna compete for prices etc.
Just wanna turtle crawl into level 90 and don't die.
Previous Gauntlet i did like 84 with cold converted Animate Weapons.
Wondering if this setup isnt better. What do you think?
Hello Jagi, defense is not very suitable for HC i think + you will have issue without earendel's, you will suffer I don't think it's a great idea!!


EDIT: btw first lvl 100 !!! \O/
Last edited by Promaore#5998 on Mar 9, 2021, 4:58:45 PM

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