Dear Community (A message from an ex-pro)

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DoubleU wrote:

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Hey, give him a break. I know how that feels. Difference being I don't seem to thrive on being almost universally mocked in my own threads, but hey, everyone has their thing. Don't thing-shame, dude.

You are right.
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Off topic - finished the second read through, love the book.

^_^

Also, that username. Seems like it captures the spirit of SSF. You get mostly sad drops, but you use them anyway, because fuck, what choice do you have? When life gives you lemons, hope to hell you don't have an allergy to citrus.

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SadDropUser wrote:

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etkratos wrote:

Im gonna feed you :D

Can you (sadropuser) give us any verifiable PROOF that you ARE what you claim to be ( a "pro" player whatewer that means).

Like, not just talking about how great you are and how well you did in the various games, but actually backing these claims with factual data we can check ourselves.

Thx :D

Factual data? Do you even have a damn clue what S-tier means in Everquest? If not google just became your very first friend in life, and probably your very last.As for being a top Wow leader, that speaks for itself, even in this apparent room full of deaftones.

Until you've done what I've done, don't even attempt to look at the way I knot my god damn shoes when you can't even tie a single knot let alone pull a cinderella and put one of them on. You're a small ship and I'm a dreadnaught when it comes to PoE, and even you are articulate to understand that. Thanks.

Dud you're not as good as i assumed you were if you try to circle around questions while attempting personal attacks :D you can do better

As to make this keep going, the question remain: HOW WE KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF THESE S-RANK AND WOW LEADERS??? Proof dude, or it never happened :D

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etkratos wrote:

Dud you're not as good as i assumed you were if you try to circle around questions while attempting personal attacks :D you can do better

As to make this keep going, the question remain: HOW WE KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF THESE S-RANK AND WOW LEADERS??? Proof dude, or it never happened :D

inb4 'YOU DARE ASK A PRO FOR PROOF?! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!! Here I am dedicating my precious time to uplift and educate you poor noobs, sharing precious insights and wisdom from someone who's LITERALLY SHAPED AND CHANGED THE META while you weren't watching, and all you ungrateful fools can do is question such an obvious PRO? HOW DARE YOU?!!' xD

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etkratos wrote:

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SadDropUser wrote:

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etkratos wrote:

Im gonna feed you :D

Can you (sadropuser) give us any verifiable PROOF that you ARE what you claim to be ( a "pro" player whatewer that means).

Like, not just talking about how great you are and how well you did in the various games, but actually backing these claims with factual data we can check ourselves.

Thx :D

Factual data? Do you even have a damn clue what S-tier means in Everquest? If not google just became your very first friend in life, and probably your very last.As for being a top Wow leader, that speaks for itself, even in this apparent room full of deaftones.

Until you've done what I've done, don't even attempt to look at the way I knot my god damn shoes when you can't even tie a single knot let alone pull a cinderella and put one of them on. You're a small ship and I'm a dreadnaught when it comes to PoE, and even you are articulate to understand that. Thanks.

Dud you're not as good as i assumed you were if you try to circle around questions while attempting personal attacks :D you can do better

As to make this keep going, the question remain: HOW WE KNOW YOU'RE ONE OF THESE S-RANK AND WOW LEADERS??? Proof dude, or it never happened :D

Feel fucking free to ask around on Everquest about me. I have nothing to hide. In fact, I have everything to show.

Now back to you. Besides doing nothing and changing ZERO metas (I've changed multiple metas btw), what did you say you had done? Nothing?

^Called it!* xD

*Well mostly. Didn't mention Everquest. But I got the tone spot on too. :D

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SadDropUser wrote:

Feel fucking free to ask around on Everquest about me.

Yep, bet I'm not the only one who had to google 'is Everquest still going 2020' before realising you were serious. Which sort of throws a big old wrench in the works regarding your fame and prowess, doesn't it? ^_^

Still, seeing 'Torment of Velious now on sale' on their site sure as shit brought back some memories, given I quit for DAoC when Scars of Velious came out, so thanks for that. :)

daoc and everquest, avoided them both alongside wow and don't know if i missed alot of fun.

did i?

^You missed players virtually prostituting themselves and humping each other in towns. I'll let you decide if you missed out on a lot of fun now...

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vio wrote:

daoc and everquest, avoided them both alongside wow and don't know if i missed alot of fun.

did i?

You did, but obviously it wasn't without its hassles and dramas. I ran roleplay guilds in both Dark Age of Camelot and Everquest, since both had very active RP scenes -- especially DAoC, which had strict in-character servers, so strict even I was reported once or twice for pushing the boundaries with my...looser RP style (you'll notice Oni-Goroshi doesn't quite talketh like she is from ye olde Englande). In Everquest, we'd occasionally be drawn into fairly elaborate roleplay events run by the devs that were a lot of fun. They'd reward our characters with decent gear for our effort, which is always a nice bonus.

But the games themselves? Eh, grindy as hell, buggy, extremely hostile (DAoC's entire conceit was three realms fighting each other in a contested frontier area and *not being able to communicate in game*, something I believe WoW copied wholesale), plagued with the usual MMO problems. Lag. Crashes. Spawn-camping. Kill-stealing. But damn, they were fun when they were hot. DAoC's combat was genuinely great fun too. Lots of tactical engagement: certain skills did more damage from behind, in front of or beside the enemy, and they'd create chains with other skills...that sort of thing is a blast in PvP.

I used to like sitting in EC Tunnel (Eastern Commons) in Everquest, which was the unofficial trade centre for any given server, and just hawk my wares in creative ways. Most people would just WTS and WTB, but I found when we'd do it in-character, others would follow suit.


Entrance to EC Tunnel on a busy day.

Or we'd do something similar in a zone called Lake of Ill Omen (LOIO), which was known as a sort of chat hub (I hear WoW had something similar in The Barrens, and wouldn't be surprised if some LOIO veterans ended up there). The fun thing about LOIO was that it also contained the final step for an Epic quest for the Monk weapon, and whenever a Monk obtained their Epic weapon, the entire zone would be alerted, and everyone would celebrate. Epic Quests back then took months of extremely convoluted questing that dragged your arse all over Norrath. They were, at the time, the only way to get glowing/animated weapons, and when you saw someone with one, you knew they were Hot Shit. They were character-bound, and thus immune to RMT and trading. There was simply no easy way to get one. I sure as fuck never did, but that's probably because I was happy goofing around in LOIO. Heh.

As for WoW, eh. I beta-tested it and thought it was a lot of fun, sort of like EQ+DAoC for dummies. But I knew from my years of experience on Battle.net what sort of unpleasant gamer Blizzard attracted, and that my enjoyment of WoW would be ruined once other people came along, so didn't ever actually play the game once it went live. I heard there was RP and whatnot, but by then I'd sort of outgrown it anyway. Not long after WoW came out there was Guild Wars 1, and that game changed everything for me. It really drove home how you could blend MMO scale with ARPG tactical play all based around a strategic MTG deck style skill setup. Pretty sure PoE would exist without Guild Wars 1, but it wouldn't be quite the same game.

edit: and while I was at it, I googled 'S-Tier Everquest'. Not a single hit. What a surprise.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

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edit: and while I was at it, I googled 'S-Tier Everquest'. Not a single hit. What a surprise.

enjoyed the read, thanks for the entertaining summary.

at the time our nerds went full ultima online, everquest and dark age of camelot i've had my "first person shooter" period, only found out later about my love to rpgs and arpgs.