Content Update 3.11.0 -- Path of Exile: Harvest

Minion nerfs again, this time on the passive tree.
Can you give us a break? Not everyone wants to play Arc or Cyclone.
FFFFF my tectonic slam was 350k , i convert to POB 3.11 now is 250k è_é FFFFFF
Last edited by Xxarca97ninW#3126 on Jun 17, 2020, 11:07:32 AM
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Educmack wrote:


For you is just a matter of building something and if it's fun, you are done. For me, I want to push my character far enough to make it viable to do the end-game content, which I have successfully done lately.


I didnt say exactly that, but ok, close enough. I put the focus on how much I like to make builds, but I did say if they can go to red maps I am happy. That is end game content. What you are saying is not end game content, its end game bosses to end game content.

Its all about where you draw the line with going from grinding a lot to grinding ridiculously on 1 build.

Both are end game content. And I have done it successfully too. If something gets boring, I play something else. That is all.

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Educmack wrote:

It's a matter of preferences, I don't like to make meme builds and you do. You don't care about skill mechanics, I do.


Play nice now. I didnt say you don't like to use your head and just copy paste the meta now did I? So no need to sit there and claim I am making "meme builds" either just to take an extreme as an example.

You do realise I did not attack you for you to start getting antsy right?

I don't care about mechanics? If anything, I would say I care more about mechanics than you do. A lot more. The fact alone Ive done over 100 builds is to test those mechanics. I was not aware I had to maximise each one of them. And as I stated, I maximise some, and many others I dont have the time or patience for.

How you went from that to me not being interested in mechanics is beyond me.

You started it good, with saying its a matter of preference. Stick to that, instead of trying to make it personal.

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Educmack wrote:

I like to try new things as you do, but for me trying "new things" is making the "new thing" to work while still be playable enough to do the end-game content to make more powerful characters.


Yeah I never said I don't do that. The problem is my end game is, the actual end game. Not one cheesy troll boss. That is what I said, a dozen times over.

I try new things too and push them as far as I can. The difference is that last mile you push for. I don't care for that part. Its not end game, its bossing at that point. And its fine. Just call it what it is though, and stop acting like that is the end game.

Like you said. Preference.

I do end game just fine. And almost every build I spend enough time into does end game easily enough and is a powerful option. Some are not as good, and that is the whole point of trying things out. Some build ideas simply don't work as good. Some others I simply do not enjoy as much and go do something else. See now if you actually did like trying new things out, I am sure you would be aware that sometimes some ideas don't pan out, and spending more time on them is a waste. So you move on to something else.

I wonder how much "you try new things" after all. But, whatever, I could be wrong. I wont start with making assumptions like you did. That will be hypocritical.


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Educmack wrote:

There are options, indeed. But what you consider "options" is way different than my conception. Even tho I like doing things differently, I don't like 2H weapons, I like the fast pace of the DW, I did only 1 build with a 2H mace and it was a Ground Slam Berzerker. "It's a 2H league", well, it seems that it will have the same effect like the "bow league", where almost no one played a single bow build but a melee and necro build instead xD


I dont see how "what I consider options to be way different than your conception."

You state a preference. That has nothing to do with options.

And that is ok. If you like DW, go for it. Guess what, I like it too. Thats totally cool.

My point is, if I play with just DW only cause that is what I like, then I will be bored of this game and season rather fast, and off it in a month again.

So yeah, there are options. And that is what literally options mean. More choices. And 2handed slower builds is lacking. Im glad they focused on it.

Now how good it will be, well, maybe you are right. Maybe nobody will play them again.

Not a great example though, the one with the bows. Necro was broken, and for people to play as much bows in that league you are telling me bows had to be as broken. And that was not the intent (hence the extra nerfs necro got since then for each league, and more minion nerfs now again on their damage, in case you didnt notice)

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Educmack wrote:


The 2H buff is not a buff, honestly... They said they have buffed a 15% the 2H damage. Man, ONLY 15% while nerfing every unique on the other hand? Nerfing the attack speed on bases, only buffing 0.3 ~ 0.5% crit base values where it's clear that almost no player goes crit with 2H weapons unless you use an Exquisite Blade. For your option, Kaom's Primacy was gutted as like a big number of other uniques...

Melee will still be a viable option, I guess, but I feel that it will be so clunky to do...


Its possible. Chances are you are completely right. Chances are you are also wrong. They also said that the 15% buff brought all the end damages up to slightly more in the end. But unlike you, I don't pick on one thing and neglect the rest.

Second, they also said they wanted to bring uniques down more in line with rares overall, and that ties in with the new rather powerful crafting options that this league gives.

End of the day, no need to get antsy about it and say I dont care about making strong characters, or that I make meme builds, or that I dont care about skill mechanics.

Maybe you are right and 2handed will be crap as balls.
I reserve the right to disagree until we test it out.
And, if history has proved anything, all this whining leads to people simply saying the game is broken and ez 2 weeks later after they figure out how to make it work. Maybe it will happen again, maybe it wont, but to lose my nickers over it is sad.

Your whole Rage argument for example on Berserker. On the one hand you don't want to use a Berserker, on the other you are complaining he is nerfed, and then lastly arguing that other builds do not have the same options for rage as the Zerker does... Seriously, starting to sound like you just want to be negative.

Btw, there is a node now that adds rage with axes, so don't worry about your rage support.

You can ofc then argue that you dont want to use axes. Which brings me back to my initial point and I stand by it. Not all mechanics should work for every idea. Going by your logic, shields should throw arrows, wands should be able to do slams, and totems should be able to cast other totems.... It doesnt work like that and I think I spent enough time explaining this.

That last part was an exaggeration? Well, now you know how it feels for me talking to you all.

Good day.
Last edited by HazaRdReborN#3855 on Jun 17, 2020, 11:23:58 AM
If Wings of Entropy needed something, it was a little bit of a buff, not a nerf of the size of a freaking cathedral.
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--all in all changes look fine. not gonna overreact without playing the league first. i mean heck we asked for a hard league last league than cried cuz it was too hard
I guess if someone makes a good build and character and wants to move on to another, they suck, cause they didnt sit there wasting their life away to grind for that 40ex item and awakened supports to do..... well... exactly the same thing but a ton more damage. Whoop dee do. You can one shot Sirus. Slow clap.

Some of us have a life and/or find zero reward in doing the same thing over and over again just to enter a "measuring" contest.

I probably know more about making viable builds overall than half the loudmouth tryhards in here flexing with their "AND-GAHM!"

See? I can make it personal too... Says a lot about some people, when they can't put together a rational argument and need to try and flex by saying the other person doesn't know anything about "end game" xD

After 7years on this game, youd think Ive tried your so called "end game" approach as well. Not for me. And its nothing special to make it sound like its something hard. Its literally just getting better items after a point, that is all. But apparently stating a preference means I know nothing.

Whatever.
Its a win for me.
This league is gonna be a baller league for fun factor. Can't wait to try all these changes out. The rest of you can sit there and cry day in day out. Its a free world after all.
Hi everyone! Have fun with today's reading. This note should be read in BK's Southern Belle voice.

Overall these look like well-thought out patch notes, and I'm excited to play in the new league. I'm VERY curious about the impact of Winterbrand stacking, and what this means for peak cold DOT dps.

I wonder what type of really high-end life-based survivability we can achieve with Agnostic + Eternal Youth. Does Wicked Ward support Eternal Youth? Because there's some real possibilities to hit 100%+ life recovery per second here.


~Lith
Ok, I'm going to be positive ...
Earthquake will be able to be used with Hollow Palm and now Crown of the Tyrant will have 75 more max life ...
The Impale passive with slow blows doesn't look bad either, and the blood and sand passives seem interesting.
I thought 2H weapons were getting a buff?

Looking at the notes on the 2H uniques - every single one of them has had their damage reduced from previous values....

That looks like a SOLID nerf.
Patch Notes 3.15:
Fixed a bug where players believed the game was playable. This has been corrected and made retroactive.
Patch Notes 3.19:
Fixed a bug where players adapted to 3.15. This bug cannot be corrected, so we have implemented a 90% reduction in item access as a punishment.
Path of nerfs.

Please blizzard , release diablo 4 as soon as you can. Poe has no clue about balance.

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