Please revert the Stash layout being automatically imported from Standard

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You don't have to touch the remove-only tabs. Just go through the drop down list and right-click every tab that isn't remove-only, then sort them how you want them to show up in the challenge league.

Yeah? What if I actually have a use for my tabs in standard and have labeled them accordingly? Say I have a premium tab called "Leaguestones" or "Fractured Items". Why should I rename these tabs? The change is nothing but confusing.

Also, in Standard my non-premium tabs are all over the place, since I bought them over a large amount of time. They are sorted by content, not numerically, yet in every new league before this one I'd have every single tab laid out in a crescent fashion so I could manage it better (for example, slots 1 to 10 armor, slots 40 to 50 jewelry etc), but this one I had to waste over an hour sorting them because they were scrambled (like 48, 91, 2, 11, 17, 37, 54 etc) and even had many numbers missing!

What's the purpose of this change? To screw over people who play both Standard and League? I can see people who don't care about either one of them liking the feature, but to me (and I'm sure a few others) it's just a nuisance.

I always put 'special'/leveling items in tab 1, map fragments in 6, quality flasks in 7, gems in 8. Always. This league each of those tabs are missing causing ever so slight confusion every time I go to use one of them.

Not an overall big deal for me. Just yet another tiny annoyance.

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SirGuySW wrote:

I always put 'special'/leveling items in tab 1, map fragments in 6, quality flasks in 7, gems in 8. Always. This league each of those tabs are missing causing ever so slight confusion every time I go to use one of them.

Not an overall big deal for me. Just yet another tiny annoyance.

Why can't you just name the tabs anything that you want?

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Turtledove wrote:

Why can't you just name the tabs anything that you want?

Because I haven't premiumd all my stash tabs.

Tab 7 (quality flasks) was screwing with me so much I did eventually sacrifice one of my normal premium tabs to be my '7'... and named it as such. The others I've just made do with the other numbers (10-13)

I agree with the OP. This change has made using the stash worse for me personally. Any of the following would improve my experience a lot:
1. Revert the stash layout changes.
2. Give the option to import stash layouts.
3. Give the option to reset the stash layout with a button press.
4. Give the option to set default from blank slate in a fresh league.

Anything involving organizing standard stash tabs isn't a good option for me.

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SirGuySW wrote:

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Turtledove wrote:

Why can't you just name the tabs anything that you want?

Because I haven't premiumd all my stash tabs.

Tab 7 (quality flasks) was screwing with me so much I did eventually sacrifice one of my normal premium tabs to be my '7'... and named it as such. The others I've just made do with the other numbers (10-13)

Interesting, I didn't understand what the problem was. I couldn't figure out what people were complaining about.

So if I'm understanding this issue correctly, it seems to be a combination of some premium and some non-premium stash tab mixture. The non-premium stash tab names end up "wrong" when based off of standard stash (or more accurately the parent stash). The non-premium stash tab names end up "good" when numbered fresh like in the old leagues.

Edit: it seems that maybe once you get used to the new numbers for the non-premium tabs based off the standard tab names then this problem might resolve itself?

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Turtledove wrote:

Edit: it seems that maybe once you get used to the new numbers for the non-premium tabs based off the standard tab names then this problem might resolve itself?

I might eventually reach the point where I am used to the 'Standard' tab labels (even though my non-premium tabs are not named consecutively screenshot: tabs 2,3,4,5,10,11,12,13 are non-premium) and that might indeed resolve that specific minor annoyance but it does nothing for the larger issue:

The naming and order of tabs in Standard are not otherwise relevant to the naming and order of tabs in league. Why should a player rename or move their 'foo' tab in Standard because they plan for it to be 'bar' in League? They're completely separate stash's that have now been unnecessarily intertwined.


Perhaps having the option to manipulate our stash tab labels and order via the website, with template/layout support (including the option to revert/reset, save templates/layouts, and apply by leagues), would be better.

ie: "Apply layout 'LEAGUE' to tmpsoft. Apply layout 'HCSSF' to tmphcssf." Players could set it up once. It could be automatically applied to each league at league start. Players could make changes as needed. Sounds like a user-friendly method. No need to mess with (or mess up) an existing and irrelevant stash.

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SirGuySW wrote:

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Thank you for your patience in explaining this. I hope that the requests in this thread make more sense to GGG as well now!

i havent started the league yet (had to keep that addiction under control somehow) and as a someone that has 0 remove-only tabs on SC_STD i think it's awesome.

and yes, i do have most of the loot since 2013 temp.leagues(actually maybe some rings/amulets left, maybe pair of non-bricked gloves)

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

I agree with the OP. This change has made using the stash worse for me personally. Any of the following would improve my experience a lot:
1. Revert the stash layout changes.
2. Give the option to import stash layouts.
3. Give the option to reset the stash layout with a button press.
4. Give the option to set default from blank slate in a fresh league.

Anything involving organizing standard stash tabs isn't a good option for me.

+1, it is a good idea, but terrible execution. Now I have plenty of colored tabs from old leagues named "fractured items", "legacy stones", "Earthquake build" etc. It doubles my work on renaming and recoloring stash tabs.