3.9.2f Patch Notes

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easyyy wrote:

i guess there wont be so many "free" Sirus carry guys when this patch is deployed xD

thanks for still working on improving our beloved game :), i hope this patch would make last Sirus phase better for minion builds.

Why? There isn't anything of Sirus in tis notes, so why you put sirus and carrys?

Did we read the same thing?

Move Sirus's journals out from under the Watchstone towers while you're at it :P

lol, I just saw the official Blog post from the devs over there for the issues they are having with Wolcen.... Don't inflate numbers mate, in the first 24hrs they had 62,000 players. I took your word for it the first time, but I guess I never learn and still to this day give benefit of a doubt to people being biased.

I guess I rather give people a chance than be outright skeptical of them, so Im cool with that.

Even so, the rest of what i said still stands.

Because loot filters are more important than... Well any major bug or issue like the crap taunt system you refuse to address.

Maybe in 4.0 the game will be playable and fun again...

i play poe since beta like i play wolcen since beta and i have more challenge than some fan boys that defend harshly poe so i know what i'm talking about.

I am a big fan of POE and i wish it evolved in the right direction.

Wolcen is a competitor of poe it is undeniable.

Watching what others do to question yourself is always positive.

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frostzor27 wrote:

Because loot filters are more important than... Well any major bug or issue...

+1

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BkBlindside wrote:

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Oxix wrote:

all time peak for poe = 123462 ( since years )

all time peak for wolcen = 127542 ( in 24 h )

So its not good for GGG.

GGG take a look on that game, they have good things.

That's like comparing Fortnite to Tarkov or Candy Crush to Starcraft -_- PoE doesn't hold your hand anywhere in the game. Tons of content most of the playerbase will never see or completely finish. Bosses that'll slap your character around even with tons of currency poured into them. PoE requires will, determination, investment of time and a mindset most can't maintain. Extensive and complicated formulas for crafting/farming/progressing. PoE is for the core ARPG fanbase. The others are for the casuals or people who have invested lots of time into that specific title. As for playing more than one ARPG? Nope. PoE is the ultimate and there likely will never be a more visceral and fast paced festival of content to explore. Path is an abomination of great mechanics that let you shred through thousands of monsters in a moment in an explosion of blood and color. A description that can only be used when talking about PoE if we're talking ARPGs. Path isn't perfect.. but it's the base formula for anyone seeking such an accolade.

Btw PoE all time peak is double the figure you presented and that was before it was launched on console.

lol... double that number? hahaha, and the actual number of Wolcen in the first 24hrs was 62,000. He probably saw some biased article fanboy comparison and went with it to suit his own agenda.

As for playing more than one arpg... Absolutely yes, 100% yes and ALWAYS yes. You can and if you want to you should. Don't go overboard to the other side and respond to fanboy bias with more fanboy bias. Even the GGG devs play other games, like seriously.

Now if all you like is PoE and want to play just PoE, then that is also good and nothing wrong with that.

Now at the question of another aRPG being on the level of PoE? I agree, there is none. And PoE is not perfect but damn, it is amazing. And I simply can't wait for PoE 2 even more so. Aside from bringing visuals to standards of our current games, I just cant wait to try all those new ascendencies out, the new skill gem system, the new campaign, the list goes on. And I can't wait to hear what they have planned for the passive skill tree.

So yes, sure you can play more than 1 arpg. Absolutely. And the notion against it is silly in every way possible. And also yes, sure you can play only 1 arpg as well and PoE is hardly comparable to anything as it stands taller as a hardcore arpg in almost every way.

Dont let your bias for a game you spend a lot of money on take the better of you. Playing another game (if you want to ofc) is not cheating on it for the love of god xD

So telling others "can't play more than 1 arpg" is just one step too far with trying to compensate for all the money spent and rationalize a stance that feels rather biased to the least, regardless of if I agree with PoE being the best at what it does.

Also, there is nothing wrong with more casual arpgs. And you also cannot say they are not true arpgs. They are. The genre dictates the genre, not the depth. Different game designs for different people, and that is a good thing. Everyone should have a choice of what they like. Looking down on other designs however for not being the way one prefers it or perhaps even the way the genre was initially intended is not a good colour.

And fps games were intended to be very different, and then ended up having life regen, weapon loadouts, weapon recoil and bullet spreads along with so many other modern stuff....... they are still fps games.

POE : https://steamcharts.com/app/238960
Wolcen : https://steamcharts.com/app/424370

im sure thats not real numbers but its representative enough and the 127k for poe has been officially annonced by GGG.

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Oxix wrote:

POE : https://steamcharts.com/app/238960
Wolcen : https://steamcharts.com/app/424370

im sure thats not real numbers but its representative enough and the 127k for poe has been officially annonced by GGG.

Again, not the 1st 24hrs xD Which is what the 60k was referring to.
And again, PoE is not on steam alone. I know at least 5 people that don't play on steam, myself included.

But as I said a second time, the initial comment I made still stands (which I wrote assuming that the number was indeed larger)... hence, it still applies. And that is the point to it.

If people want popularity contests, sure, then lets make PoE as simple and as braindead as D3 and focus only on visuals, and watch the numbers grow.

Popularity hardly says anything about the quality of a game. Its like the other point that was made which is true, its like comparing to Candy Crush Saga. Which I am sure has 10 times the numbers of both these games.... And??