Simple Question: I Need Tier 13 Maps, What Should I do?

This is my Atlas layout, highlighted are T13 maps:


Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/GC68RKz.jpg

Running this setup with T12 maps in the regions with active watchstones, i get no maps above T3.
I'm just about to lose all my T12 maps that i got for T13 farming.

What should i do?
Thanks in advance for any help!

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btw, i alch, chisel and corrupt the maps i run and the regions always have 2 sextants. The last run i did (look at the modifiers!) gave me a T1 map, which is technically impossible, since my Atlas gives a 116% certainty for a map drop one level higher:


Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/DahuHBw.jpg

There you can see the only map that dropped on that map...it's the only map in 7 T12 runs with similar modificators on the maps:

Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/bdOM7gG.jpg

So, i really need help, this doesn't make sense at all to me.

Hey there.


This t1 map most likely dropped as a maptier, your current atlas doesnt support (no 1 or 2 stones areas), so it gets downgraded.


If I was you, Id make sure to have 1 region with 4 stones (if you run t12 and drop a +2, you are screwed because your atlas doesnt even have a t14+ region to drop that map).
1 region with 3 stones and rest is just whatever from 0-2 stones.
Thats just to ensure all tiers can drop. Even those low maps can be useful to taunt conquerors faster.
Dont bother with awakening bonus just yet. Its not a priority at this stage.


You should have had some more drops in 7 runs though.
Its a little confusing because you are doing it right. Usually Id just say: Your sample size of 7 maps isnt that impressive. Run more maps.
But this is your 3rd, 4th thread about this? So I guess the sample size should be alright by now.

Partially this is your fault, for not making sure all tiers can drop.
Right now only the 3 stone and 0 stone bracket can drop with your current setup, if Im not mistaken.
But that doesnt explain your dry spell.

Still, Id like to ask you to change your atlas layout as described above and run something like 10-20 juicy maps. Then report back, if more maps did drop and what tiers did drop.

Thank you, i will try this immediately!

Yeah, i'm stuck at this stage since 2 weeks now. No matter what i do, i don't get the T13+ maps that i need to proceed. And after two weeks not proceeding anymore, the fun is off.

I will set my stones to full T1-T16 support and see what happens!
Thank you for your advice!
:)

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AngryGekko wrote:

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btw, i alch, chisel and corrupt the maps i run and the regions always have 2 sextants. The last run i did (look at the modifiers!) gave me a T1 map, which is technically impossible, since my Atlas gives a 116% certainty for a map drop one level higher:


Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/DahuHBw.jpg

In the screenshot you listed, item filter shows green item "Woad, Mockery of Man's Brain" organ. Automatic organ collection was implemented 6 weeks ago in 3.9.1 patch - since then organs are not dropping as items.

Is this means screenshot you listed was made at least 6 weeks ago? Also, you said this is "the last run you did (look at the modifiers!)" - is this means the last time you played was at least 6 weeks ago?

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DivineChampion wrote:

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AngryGekko wrote:

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btw, i alch, chisel and corrupt the maps i run and the regions always have 2 sextants. The last run i did (look at the modifiers!) gave me a T1 map, which is technically impossible, since my Atlas gives a 116% certainty for a map drop one level higher:


Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/DahuHBw.jpg

In the screenshot you listed, item filter shows green item "Woad, Mockery of Man's Brain" organ. Automatic organ collection was implemented 6 weeks ago in 3.9.1 patch - since then organs are not dropping as items.

Is this means screenshot you listed was made at least 6 weeks ago? Also, you said this is "the last run you did (look at the modifiers!)" - is this means the last time you played was at least 6 weeks ago?

That most likely the item you use in Tane's Lab, which if not drop is a huge problem.
Btw the condition for that item to drop is fully juiced metamorph, just in case you haven't know.

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phihonglhln wrote:

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DivineChampion wrote:

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AngryGekko wrote:

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btw, i alch, chisel and corrupt the maps i run and the regions always have 2 sextants. The last run i did (look at the modifiers!) gave me a T1 map, which is technically impossible, since my Atlas gives a 116% certainty for a map drop one level higher:

Spoiler

Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/DahuHBw.jpg

In the screenshot you listed, item filter shows green item "Woad, Mockery of Man's Brain" organ. Automatic organ collection was implemented 6 weeks ago in 3.9.1 patch - since then organs are not dropping as items.

Is this means screenshot you listed was made at least 6 weeks ago? Also, you said this is "the last run you did (look at the modifiers!)" - is this means the last time you played was at least 6 weeks ago?

That most likely the item you use in Tane's Lab, which if not drop is a huge problem.

Oops, my bad - brainlag!

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AngryGekko wrote:

I will set my stones to full T1-T16 support and see what happens!
Thank you for your advice!
:)

You are welcome, hope it helps :)


I thought about your claim only this 1 map dropped in 7 runs and something was off. Its not that Im not believing you, its just very very unlikely. Just didnt make sense at all.

Im assuming you had your lootfilter deactivated or set to a less strict version to make sure you didnt miss drops when you took your screenshots. Thats when the t1 showed up, most likely your filter would taken care and hide the t1 otherwise.
If thats correct, then you most likely had a lot more maps dropping, but those got downgraded because your atlas didnt support this specific tier and because it got downgraded it got then filtered out.


Just trying to understand whats going on here, so I dont run into a situation like this ^^
Can you verify/falsify my assumption?

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Orbaal wrote:

Just trying to understand whats going on here, so I dont run into a situation like this ^^
Can you verify/falsify my assumption?

This is why i contacted the GGG support with that issue, because it IS an issue that needs support. But they don't care, they wrote an automated email: i should use the forum. No words for the unprofessionality of this company.

Back to topic:
Yes, i spreaded watchstones in different mounts all over the towers. At first it was like BANG! THATS IT! i got some maps with a higher tier (T14), that didn't happen for weeks!

I did some runs with that atlas configuration...and after a while i re-configured the stones to have other maps active for drops.

As soon as i did this, i'm now back to my initial problem. The configuration of my atlas is the same, but different towers with different watchstones. And guess what: i really don't get it. And i can't reconstruct the one confiduration that did it for me. Now i had 5 T12 runs without any higher tier maps. If something drops, these are T3-T4 maps.

This is my atlas now:

Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/3WGc1kO.jpg

This is a typical drop:

Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/b40XXPZ.jpg


Enlarge: https://i.imgur.com/OUzO4ts.jpg


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It's beyond my understanding.

Is it important to reconfigure the regions/watchstones in the atlas every time you run a map to have the map correspond to the region/tier on the atals?

Or is the distribution of watchstones in the towers free from the specific maps you run?

Map drops from Metamorphs are not affected by your atlas. It will always drop maps at their base tiers.