if i am using cospri+lycosidae for now, should i still go for <15aps? u mentioned in ur guide 15aps is for both weapons so each weapon will hit <7.5aps.
what about sword+shield? sorry i have limited budget now and it will take a while before i really get this build going. trying to understand the mechanics fully. thanks!
As you are using only one weapon, no. You only hit with one weapon now, so aim for <7.5 APS instead. Also, Lycosidae is a good option for 100% hit, but if you're using Effigon + Flesh and Blood you'll already have 100% hit. If that's the case, you can swap Lycosidae for another shield (eg. rare shield with life and spell damage).
Jewels affixes and boots enchantment are possible options. I guess I gave some options on another page, I can double check later and update my answer here.
Edit: found this. Hope it helps!
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Chesco wrote:
Some possible changes to increase your attack speed are Cyclone enchant on helm (15% - way too expensive at the moment), Watcher's Eye with attack speed with Precision (10-15%), or boots enchant for 15% attack speed if killed recently, or investing on some jewels with attack speed affixes. 15% attack speed will give you a little lower than 1 APS, so with around 30% increased attack speed on items you'll get really close to the cap! :)
I need some clarifications. You state that if we dualwield 2 Cospris we can safely go up to <15 APS. But what about our main damage setup from the chest? It is still subject to <7.5 APS cap, so going above 7.5 APS will cause us to lose damage due to CD and skipped procs of Ice Nova from our chest? Will it not? Is it less harsh if our cyclone's chance to hit and crit chance and our spell cirt chance are all lower than 100%, because then we will not exceed 7.5 APS in the end?
Not with exactly twice as much aps.Yes chest is also 7.5, but if you have 15aps it is excatly the same, but in one cooldown you fit 2 attacks instead of 1. Next perfect aligment aps for dual wield would be 30aps.
I need some clarifications. You state that if we dualwield 2 Cospris we can safely go up to <15 APS. But what about our main damage setup from the chest? It is still subject to <7.5 APS cap, so going above 7.5 APS will cause us to lose damage due to CD and skipped procs of Ice Nova from our chest? Will it not? Is it less harsh if our cyclone's chance to hit and crit chance and our spell cirt chance are all lower than 100%, because then we will not exceed 7.5 APS in the end?
Not with exactly twice as much aps.Yes chest is also 7.5, but if you have 15aps it is excatly the same, but in one cooldown you fit 2 attacks instead of 1. Next perfect aligment aps for dual wield would be 30aps.
Yes for 1h you go 7.5
I still do not get it. If my cooldown on chest spell is below 132 ms (with 14% CDR on belt) then I can proc it 7.5 times per seconds at most. Even if I attack 15 times per second I will still proc my chest spell no more than 7.5 times per second = every other second attack. So at 15 APS my chest spell will not benefit, maybe just my cospri spells would. But this is at rather high APS of apr. 15. What about APS of 9-10, where I currently seem to be (after equipping my second Cospri). Right now I am using Lycosidae and I am at safe, almost optimal 7.38 APS.
Last edited by DarkAvenger2279#3442 on Jan 14, 2020, 7:13:31 AM
I need some clarifications. You state that if we dualwield 2 Cospris we can safely go up to <15 APS. But what about our main damage setup from the chest? It is still subject to <7.5 APS cap, so going above 7.5 APS will cause us to lose damage due to CD and skipped procs of Ice Nova from our chest? Will it not? Is it less harsh if our cyclone's chance to hit and crit chance and our spell cirt chance are all lower than 100%, because then we will not exceed 7.5 APS in the end?
Not with exactly twice as much aps.Yes chest is also 7.5, but if you have 15aps it is excatly the same, but in one cooldown you fit 2 attacks instead of 1. Next perfect aligment aps for dual wield would be 30aps.
Yes for 1h you go 7.5
I still do not get it. If my cooldown on chest spell is below 132 ms (with 14% CDR on belt) then I can proc it 7.5 times per seconds at most. Even if I attack 15 times per second I will still proc my chest spell no more than 7.5 times per second = every other second attack. So at 15 APS my chest spell will not benefit, maybe just my cospri spells would. But this is at rather high APS of apr. 15. What about APS of 9-10, where I currently seem to be (after equipping my second Cospri). Right now I am using Lycosidae and I am at safe, almost optimal 7.38 APS.
Ye 15aps is only for dual wield, cause attacks alternate, one weapon, then second weapon. So if you want to proc 7.5 for each cospri's u need 15aps. Chest is hard stuck at 7.5 only with awakened CoC gem you can get 10procs.
So it's a matter of cospri's cooldown, which is the same as CoC gem, if you want to proc both at optimal rate you need 15aps.
Ill try to make video.
Last edited by zjazd#7401 on Jan 14, 2020, 7:28:12 AM
Ye 15aps is only for dual wield, cause attacks alternate, one weapon, then second weapon. So if you want to proc 7.5 for each cospri's u need 15aps. Chest is hard stuck at 7.5 only with awakened CoC gem you can get 10procs.
So this is my current gear, I'm at 14.77 APS with ~6.6m DPS atm, if I want the most DPS possible, I will have to get CDR boots and an awakened CoC so my WoC will procc 14.77 times per second instead of the 7.x it does now, right?
With boots and CoC gem i would be at ~62% CDR, I know my Cospris gems won't benefit from it but getting double the WoC proccs seems pretty strong atm. Would mean a DPS gain of ~750k for me right now, still sitting on lvl 92.
I crafted the belt, chest and head myself, gonna work on a life/fire-/lightning-resi/firepen head next.
https://pastebin.com/N7f2aXka
For belt the only thing I can do is craft 20% dmg and pray for a resist when slaming, right?
I have an imprint for my chest, when i decide to annul it.
What stats, apart from movespeed, CDR and HP would be good if I'm already resicapped? Tailwind would give me 10% IAS, so I could save some stats in my tree or gems.
Last edited by todnesser#0146 on Jan 14, 2020, 9:24:03 AM
Ye 15aps is only for dual wield, cause attacks alternate, one weapon, then second weapon. So if you want to proc 7.5 for each cospri's u need 15aps. Chest is hard stuck at 7.5 only with awakened CoC gem you can get 10procs.
So this is my current gear, I'm at 14.77 APS with ~6.6m DPS atm, if I want the most DPS possible, I will have to get CDR boots and an awakened CoC so my WoC will procc 14.77 times per second instead of the 7.x it does now, right?
With boots and CoC gem i would be at ~62% CDR, I know my Cospris gems won't benefit from it but getting double the WoC proccs seems pretty strong atm. Would mean a DPS gain of ~1.8m for me right now, still sitting on lvl 92.
I crafted the belt, chest and head myself, gonna work on a life/fire-/lightning-resi/firepen head next.
https://pastebin.com/N7f2aXka
For belt the only thing I can do is craft 20% dmg and pray for a resist when slaming, right?
I have an imprint for my chest, when i decide to annul it.
What stats, apart from movespeed, CDR and HP would be good if I'm already resicapped? Tailwind would give me 10% IAS, so I could save some stats in my tree or gems.
No, with awakend CoC and CDR Belt and Boots you are only able to get 10 Procs per Second. So, 15 APS would be really bad for this Setup.
That's the reason i will go for 10 APS with my Setup:
You have to calculate for your Setup if it will be worth it to drop to 10 APS with 52% CDR. You will lose 2.5 Procs per Cospri and gain 2.5 for your 6l. Only worth it if your 6l is heavly focused on damage (droping attack speed and increased crits)
Ye 15aps is only for dual wield, cause attacks alternate, one weapon, then second weapon. So if you want to proc 7.5 for each cospri's u need 15aps. Chest is hard stuck at 7.5 only with awakened CoC gem you can get 10procs.
So this is my current gear, I'm at 14.77 APS with ~6.6m DPS atm, if I want the most DPS possible, I will have to get CDR boots and an awakened CoC so my WoC will procc 14.77 times per second instead of the 7.x it does now, right?
With boots and CoC gem i would be at ~62% CDR, I know my Cospris gems won't benefit from it but getting double the WoC proccs seems pretty strong atm. Would mean a DPS gain of ~1.8m for me right now, still sitting on lvl 92.
I crafted the belt, chest and head myself, gonna work on a life/fire-/lightning-resi/firepen head next.
https://pastebin.com/N7f2aXka
For belt the only thing I can do is craft 20% dmg and pray for a resist when slaming, right?
I have an imprint for my chest, when i decide to annul it.
What stats, apart from movespeed, CDR and HP would be good if I'm already resicapped? Tailwind would give me 10% IAS, so I could save some stats in my tree or gems.
If you care only about dps, you need ele weakness on gloves or flammability on ring, remove poacher's mark and run jewel with +2mana hit, with ur aps prolly will need 2 of those, still can find with dmg mods and life, or on ring. Replace mark of the shaper for Circle of anguish with buff effect AND fire damage, that gives u option to find 2nd perfect ring to fill all the needs u have without requirement of elder base. Remove skitterbots, add Zealotry or Anger with watcher's eye elemental penetration. Shock will come from craft on 2nd ring.
No with 52% it only procs 10times(and higher doesnt change anything), and you need 10aps or 20 for that. But 20aps will not synchronize cospri's.
10aps - 2.5 procs per cospri, 20aps- 5 procs per cospri's.
No with 52% it only procs 10times(and higher doesnt change anything), and you need 10aps or 20 for that. But 20aps will not synchronize cospri's.
10aps - 2.5 procs per cospri, 20aps- 5 procs per cospri's.
Ah yes, you're right, don't know how I fucked up my math.
Gonna craft my helmet first then gonna see what I'll do next.
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If you care only about dps, you need ele weakness on gloves or flammability on ring, remove poacher's mark and run jewel with +2mana hit, with ur aps prolly will need 2 of those, still can find with dmg mods and life, or on ring. Replace mark of the shaper for Circle of anguish with buff effect AND fire damage, that gives u option to find 2nd perfect ring to fill all the needs u have without requirement of elder base
In this case I could also get a circle of anguish with -3 to mana cost of skills, not that it's gonna be cheap with the other two mods :D
