3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Osgili4th wrote:

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BopMajster wrote:

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Osgili4th wrote:

I have Haste for Vaal Haste, since you can use it without needing to expend mana or reservation, is a huge boos specially with Generosity. But I run 5 Auras, the ones you listed with Aspect of the Spider.

i see. And what minion skill do you cast, since you have Enduring Bond tallent?

Spirit Offering and Convocation have the tag of minion skills, so you get the bonus dmg, also work as you expect with abyssal jewells that buff if you use a minion skill as well.

so if we cast cyclone as normal, we trigger enduring bond?

how big is the dmg difference between Georfri's build and Saqawal's Nest ?

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BopMajster wrote:

so if we cast cyclone as normal, we trigger enduring bond?

No, you need to actually cast the ability. Cyclone casting things while channeling is just you casting Cyclone and having that cast things.

Bone Armour and Convocation work for the purposes of triggering "minion" skills. Usually alternating Bone Armour and Convocation is enough to keep decent uptime on that.

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emdoudar wrote:

how big is the dmg difference between Georfri's build and Saqawal's Nest ?

Depending on how many extra auras you can fit in and how much strength (and therefore extra zombies) you can get out of it, it can be huge. My damage effectively doubled since I was able to add two more auras and an extra zombie.

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

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Osgili4th wrote:

... specially if you do really jucied maps of tier 17-18.

OK, I keep seeing reference to tier 17-19 maps on y-tube, and now here....

Last I checked (which is last time I ran a map.....a few minutes ago) T16 is the highest. WTF am I missing?

With ivory watchstones, you can increase lvl with a tier up to +3 lvls with 3 possible ivory watchstones.

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Linus1985 wrote:

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

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Osgili4th wrote:

... specially if you do really jucied maps of tier 17-18.

OK, I keep seeing reference to tier 17-19 maps on y-tube, and now here....

Last I checked (which is last time I ran a map.....a few minutes ago) T16 is the highest. WTF am I missing?

With ivory watchstones, you can increase lvl with a tier up to +3 lvls with 3 possible ivory watchstones.

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Sarclol wrote:

Use watchstones with +1 monster level. You can get up to 87 using 4 of them, which is effectively T20. I should warn you that at T20, you start to see your AG's health move quite frequently, and it can be rather anxiety-inducing.

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Bloody Hell I didn't realize these +1 watchstones even existed!
/facepalm

Just been doing corrupted, quad-sextant, Aw8, Zana Domination, extra-frag T16's trying to get to my first ever lvl 100 character.....seems to take 5-6 of these maps to get 1% xp....

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

Just been doing corrupted, quad-sextant, Aw8, Zana Domination, extra-frag T16's trying to get to my first ever lvl 100 character.....seems to take 5-6 of these maps to get 1% xp....

Keep in mind that those maps are insane, you can get oneshot if you aren't aware of whats going on, and the amount of life mosters gain isn't a joke, so bosses and methamporhs can be deadly. So the risk of having a faster 100 lvl can be a downside if you die in those maps.

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Osgili4th wrote:

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Bjorn_Angannon wrote:

Just been doing corrupted, quad-sextant, Aw8, Zana Domination, extra-frag T16's trying to get to my first ever lvl 100 character.....seems to take 5-6 of these maps to get 1% xp....

Keep in mind that those maps are insane, you can get oneshot if you aren't aware of whats going on, and the amount of life mosters gain isn't a joke, so bosses and methamporhs can be deadly. So the risk of having a faster 100 lvl can be a downside if you die in those maps.

Ya, went to the watchstone section of Ninja and actually looked at what was there...many of the +1 also has +16-30% damage or life....and started thinking along the same lines as what you just advised.....and promptly dove back into my "break from juiced t16 maps" depth 250-300 mine xp farming lol.

I do still die once in a while, so the added gain of T17+ is not worth the added risk for me. But having the knowledge ya'll passed on to me is invaluable for later XD

Thanks!

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crazypearce wrote:

the amulet was double t1% suffixes with t1 flat strength and i struggled to sell it for much more than 55ex, even though on trade they are basically priced as mirrors.

Tell me about it, I have 2x T2 flat str ones that theoretically should go for 80-90ex minimum cus they have life, ES, ES% as their prefixes, but havent heard a peep on them..

Yet the 32 str one and 24 to all attributes ones I just made both went for ~30ex a piece and sold in 20 minutes. And they only had 1 or 2 good prefixes.

How do you get enough resists with budget gear? There is literally no resist on any of the gear except rings which are low resist rolls.