3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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ArisFuser wrote:
My OWN build idea.


not really, no

I mean, look at poe ninja /builds. It's been done, it's being done, you didn't come up with it :P


Plenty of players stumble across the same synergies used in "published" builds. It's not as if those builds are relying on secrets, skills, and gear, only they can unlock. It's all there in the game.

The idea of combining an overleech mechanic with ES isn't new, either. That's why there is bits of gear that give that ability.

This build started out as a speedy Necro build with fast, fast, fast little murder bots that run halfway across the map to pick up bunnies and bop 'em on the head... Fast. Fastly, even. And, the attraction there? The Necro doesn't have to do squat except run around the map, maybe pop a Flesh Offering now and then. That's it. AND IT'S CHEAP! At least the original build is very cheap. Even I was able to afford the gear... That's saying something because RNG hates me. :)

The build was a bit overstated, but not in its capacity for violence, just quite a nice bit of hype layered over it. I liked that bit of daring, so decided to give it a shot. Heck, couldn't be worse than then the two somewhat broken'ish builds I tried before.

And, it works, just like advertised. :)

With the ES "Tanky" edition, it works pretty nice, too. A bit more expensive, but at least I got a Geoffri's six-linked to try it out. Not bad. Not bad at all. I doubt I'll get my stats up enough to deal with a nice Shaper's Touch, but I don't have any reservations about the "Tanky" version's capabilities.

As soon as I saw Arisfuser's first post mentioning the Geofri's, I knew I had to go there. I didn't need any testimonials because the evidence for its likely functionality and synergies is already in front of our faces. Nice suggestion, Aris! Thanks!

There a phrase in writing that's relevant - "Everything has already been written." And, it's true. There really isn't anything wholly "original" in writing, it's just the same ol' restating of classic stories. And, when it is fully original, it usually sucks... ;)

We can thank GGG for their push on Necros this League. Next League, we may not be so lucky... But, that's why we keep logging in, isn't it?
Thanks again Brunowa for all the work you put into the build, and thanks ArisFuser for all the additional tweaks (and I really appreciate the +2 Support gem craft from someone trusted).

The vanilla version exceeded my expectations, so I sold everything extra I could find to start on the moar tankier/moar damage build.

Took about 2500 alts to get +1 gems and Maim on the 2H mace-- yes, it's ONLY lvl 18 Maim, but I think it will be fine.




Well, the zombies are hungry, and I'm out of currency, so time to go take out some monsters so I can buy +4 Empower and the rest of the stuff I need.


Many thanks to all who posted in this thread, what a great community!

Feral


I am realy thankful to brunowa and ArisFuser for putting all parts of the build together. I'm using Aris Tanky version and it works. For me the hardest part is language. I often overmiss small important things what ppl write. Its just lack of english language knowledge. I am also often looking at poe ninja to check ppl ideas, but often without writeup I miss things importance. Thats why I'm here and using this thread to understand thing. I've changed my setup this league over 20 times. Tried all versions from this thread and many others. I'ts just that this variation works best for my old fingers. I've sold my White Triad Grip gloves becsuse of how many deaths I had with that version. This setup is Best for me and if someone somewhere has it in this version is not important. This thread is easy to find, ppl are so nice to help with understanding things so I'am happy to take part in this.

Great job both of you.

My setup so far.

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Last edited by mon1620deo on Oct 12, 2019, 3:44:03 AM
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mon1620deo wrote:
I am realy thankful to brunowa and ArisFuser for putting all parts of the build together. I'm using Aris Tanky version and it works. For me the hardest part is language. I often overmiss small important things what ppl write. Its just lack of english language knowledge. I am also often looking at poe ninja to check ppl ideas, but often without writeup I miss things importance. Thats why I'm here and using this thread to understand thing. I've changed my setup this league over 20 times. Tried all versions from this thread and many others. I'ts just that this variation works best for my old fingers. I've sold my White Triad Grip gloves becsuse of how many deaths I had with that version. This setup is Best for me and if someone somewhere has it in this version is not important. This thread is easy to find, ppl are so nice to help with understanding things so I'am happy to take part in this.

Great job both of you.

My setup so far.

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Imo, you should have kept the 4w triad and changed your belt to soul theter.

The the vanilla version was already achieving what aris was trying to achieve. It hits hard (2minute uber elder) clears fast (movespeed is just the limiting factor of your clear) and tanky in the semse that your movespeed is the best damage mitigation you can have. So if those were just the goal, you dont need to spend more. In this regard, bruno has my gratuiude for showing me a very powerful beginners intorduction to necro build.

The reason i deviated was deep delving, i was pushing 500 depths in delve and the oneshots in vanilla version is getting noticeable. So i went the crafted maim mace and 4white triad route for damage + soul thether, vaal pact and doryani glorious vanity for defense. Without soul theter, the ES from geofry and shaper touch is not maximized because youd be waiting for it to regen.

Try it sometime.
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mon1620deo wrote:
I am realy thankful to brunowa and ArisFuser for putting all parts of the build together. I'm using Aris Tanky version and it works. For me the hardest part is language. I often overmiss small important things what ppl write. Its just lack of english language knowledge. I am also often looking at poe ninja to check ppl ideas, but often without writeup I miss things importance. Thats why I'm here and using this thread to understand thing. I've changed my setup this league over 20 times. Tried all versions from this thread and many others. I'ts just that this variation works best for my old fingers. I've sold my White Triad Grip gloves becsuse of how many deaths I had with that version. This setup is Best for me and if someone somewhere has it in this version is not important. This thread is easy to find, ppl are so nice to help with understanding things so I'am happy to take part in this.

Great job both of you.

My setup so far.

Spoiler


Imo, you should have kept the 4w triad and changed your belt to soul theter.

The the vanilla version was already achieving what aris was trying to achieve. It hits hard (2minute uber elder) clears fast (movespeed is just the limiting factor of your clear) and tanky in the semse that your movespeed is the best damage mitigation you can have. So if those were just the goal, you dont need to spend more. In this regard, bruno has my gratuiude for showing me a very powerful beginners intorduction to necro build.

The reason i deviated was deep delving, i was pushing 500 depths in delve and the oneshots in vanilla version is getting noticeable. So i went the crafted maim mace and 4white triad route for damage + soul thether, vaal pact and doryani glorious vanity for defense. Without soul theter, the ES from geofry and shaper touch is not maximized because youd be waiting for it to regen.

Try it sometime.


Thank you for info. I will for sure. Delving is what i like very much. Now to conclusion. You see yourself how hard is to understand non english speakers to understand every detail. Guide in game is shit as hell, Even checking everything in PoB is not easy (everything is in english). thats why we are making so much mistakes and need to have such a topicks to understand things.

cheers
God I love you guys... what an epic last couple of pages :D

Thanks for all the love!

Yeah agree exactly what rolando mentioned above: vanilla version is exactly what 99% of people would want to play... it's fast, it's cheap, and it has great tankiness and DPS do to all major content in the game.

Heck, I'm on Delve 300+ using my speed boots and belt and still kicking ass ;D

ArisFusers' new tanky version that is turning heads is just insanely good... insanly good at pushing the build further for those that want to push into the deepest, darkest, doomiest, deadliess, of delveesssss. Plus it looks epicly fun so I'm gonna give it a go once I kill Uber Elder in Blight!
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FeralGoddess wrote:
Thanks again Brunowa for all the work you put into the build, and thanks ArisFuser for all the additional tweaks (and I really appreciate the +2 Support gem craft from someone trusted).

The vanilla version exceeded my expectations, so I sold everything extra I could find to start on the moar tankier/moar damage build.

Took about 2500 alts to get +1 gems and Maim on the 2H mace-- yes, it's ONLY lvl 18 Maim, but I think it will be fine.




Well, the zombies are hungry, and I'm out of currency, so time to go take out some monsters so I can buy +4 Empower and the rest of the stuff I need.


Many thanks to all who posted in this thread, what a great community!

Feral




Thanks Feral!

Yes, you need Empower 4... but you also need Raise Zombie to be level 21... when you have both of those you will reach LEVEL 30 Raise Zombie which gives you another Zombie for even more insane DPS. So yes, get Empower 4 and Zombie 21 and you will melt content even faster.
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Jarhead32 wrote:
Are the the current builds items, skill tree and gems needed current on the front page build guide?
Its very hard for me to acquire much of the gear let alone get the socket colors and links right.


Just stick with the original build guide. It's the cheapest option and you can easily cream all content with it. Our latest discussion is one of crazy testing and going insane with lots of $$$.
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Imo, you should have kept the 4w triad and changed your belt to soul theter.

The the vanilla version was already achieving what aris was trying to achieve. It hits hard (2minute uber elder) clears fast (movespeed is just the limiting factor of your clear) and tanky in the semse that your movespeed is the best damage mitigation you can have. So if those were just the goal, you dont need to spend more. In this regard, bruno has my gratuiude for showing me a very powerful beginners intorduction to necro build.

The reason i deviated was deep delving, i was pushing 500 depths in delve and the oneshots in vanilla version is getting noticeable. So i went the crafted maim mace and 4white triad route for damage + soul thether, vaal pact and doryani glorious vanity for defense. Without soul theter, the ES from geofry and shaper touch is not maximized because youd be waiting for it to regen.

Try it sometime.


Maybe you write it here also as a version :) would be very nice to read it.

Cheers
I see mentioned that Skitterbots increases the speed of our minions, or did I misunderstood? But wiki does not seem to mention this speed boost from them. I'm currently trying them but my minions moved so fast already that it is hard to gauge this.

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