3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

I first tried Maven Shaper with the Squire but totally got wrecked. Every time Shaper does the slam, I die. Zombies kept dying too. I went back and used my previous 2 handed mace and I got my zombies health way better, but I still died to shaper's slam. Then I just went for the shaper without the maven and same thing but I didn't lose any zombies. After that I tried Uber elder without the maven. The zombies kept dying. The AG and spectres were fine. I believe the zombies have like 91K life.
I haven't played in standard for quite a while. I used to do uber shaper and uber elder deathless. Imagine my surprise.
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Kazm0t wrote:
I first tried Maven Shaper with the Squire but totally got wrecked. Every time Shaper does the slam, I die. Zombies kept dying too. I went back and used my previous 2 handed mace and I got my zombies health way better, but I still died to shaper's slam. Then I just went for the shaper without the maven and same thing but I didn't lose any zombies. After that I tried Uber elder without the maven. The zombies kept dying. The AG and spectres were fine. I believe the zombies have like 91K life.
I haven't played in standard for quite a while. I used to do uber shaper and uber elder deathless. Imagine my surprise.


Well, the Uber version of Shaper and Uber Elder have only been released in this latest patch 3.18, so you couldn't have done them before.

Can you check your Atlas passive tree and see if you have 'Cosmic Wounds' allocated? It's located at the top cluster in the tree with all shaper/elder related nodes.
Yup, stupid me. Didn't think of that. Imagine my surprise again. I just clicked on whatever I thought would reward more. Never thought of the consequences. Refunded... and I will try again. Thanks a lot man. Do you have this atlas passive enabled?
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Kazm0t wrote:
Yup, stupid me. Didn't think of that. Imagine my surprise again. I just clicked on whatever I thought would reward more. Never thought of the consequences. Refunded... and I will try again. Thanks a lot man. Do you have this atlas passive enabled?
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You're welcome. Glad we solved the issue.

When I do shaper / uber elder runs I have that node activated. The Uber versions are a lot more rippy for minions so most of the time a few of my zombies die, mostly on Uber Uber Elder. However for me that's no issue since I also run 4 x Carrion Golems and they survive just fine.
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Fritso wrote:

Points of action:
- Get their elemental resists up: jewels with minion res and/or spec into Indomitable Army
- Get their Chaos res up: spec into Grave Intentions
- Get minion 8% max res mastery. Can be found on both above mentioned notable clusters
- Increase their max life: can also be found on the above mentioned notables and on other parts of the tree. You can also increase their life by raising the level of the skill gem by using a lvl 4 empower for example.

Hope this helps!


I done some changes in passives and now zombies are more tankier. Thanks Fritso!
Can someone explain, why I should use Lifetap Support with Spectres and AG? I don't really get it. For me Empower seems to be a better choice.
Last edited by Azrael Djerun#8801 on Jun 7, 2022, 5:36:01 AM
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Azrael Djerun wrote:
Can someone explain, why I should use Lifetap Support with Spectres and AG? I don't really get it. For me Empower seems to be a better choice.


Lifetap is no longer needed. GGG changed that a few patches ago.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm currently saving for an empower lvl. 4 and will then switch my current lvl. 3 over to my AG and Spectre.
What would be your recommendations for a 4th spectre?
I'm currently running with Merveils Retainer, Host and Carnage Chieftan, but can't decide on the 4th one. Used Undying Evangelist and it was ok, but am looking for soemthing, to either boost damage output or defence.
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Azrael Djerun wrote:
What would be your recommendations for a 4th spectre?
I'm currently running with Merveils Retainer, Host and Carnage Chieftan, but can't decide on the 4th one. Used Undying Evangelist and it was ok, but am looking for soemthing, to either boost damage output or defence.


2 x host and 2 x carnage is the best setup for damage. With just one of each you'll struggle maintaining and quickly building charges. Seeing as power and frenzy charges are much stronger for minions you'll want them up 100% of the time.

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